To: LindyBill who wrote (18206 ) 12/1/2003 11:45:35 PM From: Dayuhan Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 793671 This is something I will never understand. Why are people raised in the most scientifically advanced nation on earth, with free access to a greater body of knowledge than any humans have ever had, retreating into superstition? Look at this… During the last century in particular, says Wheaton College's Noll, "Christian reasoning as a whole, through use of the Bible, theology, and doctrine, simply hasn't measured up. The scandal of the evangelical thinking is that there is not enough of it, and that which exists is not up to the standards that Edwards established." And then this… ...a phenomenon that transcends denominational lines and emphasizes born-again conversion, Christ's redemptive role, the unerring authority of the Bible, and a commitment to taking the Gospel to others? The problem is that in Edwards’ day, acceptance of “the unerring authority of the Bible” was not fundamentally incompatible with reasoned thought. Today that has changed. It’s pretty much impossible to submit to the idea of an inerrant Bible without turning off significant portions of your mind. I can’t see why anybody would do that voluntarily, and I can’t see the appeal of submission overall, especially when the submission in question is not to some hypothetical deity, but to self-appointed religious intermediaries. This I thought was just plain funny: …evangelical notions about God's special covenant with the American people have contributed to a quasi-religious nationalism that casts America as the chosen nation engaged in a righteous struggle with evil. That reminds me of the story, possibly apocryphal but recounted in a very respectable source, about a Congressional delegation on a visit to China. A Chinese bureaucrat gave a presentation, and asked if there were questions. One Congressman asked “I just want to know if you’ve accepted Jesus as your personal saviour”. Then we wonder why so many people in other parts of the world think we’re a bunch of bloody nutters.