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To: tsigprofit who wrote (4803)	12/1/2003 8:54:16 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 20773

Just out of curiousity, what more efforts should we be directing at Afghanistan or Pakistan? We overthrew the Taliban and our troops can go anywhere we want there. Afghanistan is no longer a safe haven where Al Qaida can train its recruits by the thousand, develop and test weapons and practice terror attacks. Osama bin Ladin is almost certainly dead - probably killed in December '01. The #2 guy, Zawahiri, is alive but his whereabouts are uncertain - some indications are he's hiding in Pakistan or Iraq or elsewhere in the mid East. Pakistan seems to have purged its intelligence officials which supported Al Qaida and the Taliban. Pakistan has cooperated with us and important arrests of Al Qaida members hiding in Pakistan have been made. The only major thing in this region I think that would be useful is replacing the madrassas (which create young people indoctrinated in extremist Islam and few if any practical skills) with some decent educational institutions. This would be an enormous undertaking and I'm not sure how to go about it. ... left, right, or center? People of every orientation opposed the war. I don't have a problem with that. People of every orientation also supported the war - remember that people like Gephardt, Clinton, Kerry, and more I could name all voted for the Congressional resolution giving Bush the power to go to war. I do question why antiwar people should continue to obsess about the war issue. Whether we should have gone to war in Iraq is yesterday's subject now as I see it. It's like debating whether Lincoln should have let the South secede. It didn't happen. Time to move on. The war in Iraq happened and we are involved now in an effort to create a stable and hopefully democratic country there. And we're going to stay involved regardless of who is elected. I think many people assume that "antiwar" candidates like Dean and Clark would unilaterally withdraw but ONLY Kucinich is for this. And Kucinich, the only candidate explicitly calling for "cutting and running" doesn't even have a ghost of a chance to get the Dem nomination. So what's the fuss all about? And back to Afghanistan and Al Qaida, if there are other additional things we ought to be doing (and maybe there are) well, we can still do them.