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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (5)	12/3/2003 2:16:51 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 190

<Border drawing cannot end jihad; the jihad must end for borders to be drawn. Anything short of that is not peace, but farce.> Why is this true?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (5)	12/3/2003 10:00:25 PM
From: John Soileau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 190

Nadine, from a recent article: Beilin said Israelis and Palestinians are "thirsting for a solution" to the conflict and the co-authors' goal is to rally public opinion to persuade both sides to use the plan as a basis for a comprehensive final peace settlement. end snip The ultras on each side will never solve anything; support by the center and left on each side is essential if two peaceful states are ever to be attained. The center/left are not now in power in Israel, but have been and could be. On the other hand, it's hard to tell whether much of a center/left even _exists_ among Palestinians. To the extent a Palestinian center/left does exist, it remains essentially invisible--death threats and executions probably have something to do with that. Beilin may yet "rally public opinion" among the Palestinians. Or quite possibly, he may be a lone wolf howling in the wind. To the extent that that proves true, there's no need to further ponder the GA--it's going nowhere. John

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (5)	12/5/2003 8:24:06 AM
From: John Soileau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 190

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites)'s public approval rating sank to an all-time low Friday amid a rare rift with Israel's main ally, the United States, over an unofficial peace plan he opposes. story.news.yahoo.com

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (5)	12/7/2003 2:28:41 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 190

Nadine, Re: "That neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian participants represent their respective leaderships is only the beginning of the story." I take the strongest possible except to the editorial hatred of the Jerusalem Post. It is the failed leadership of Israel that is no longer representing the best interests of Israel. Sharon's policies have been nothing short of an unmitigated failure. A failure for Israel, a failure for the victims of Israel's stunning imitation of the Nazi repression of the Jew. A failure for the world, inasmuch as Sharon's hatred has poisoned the foreign policy of the United States with a pollution of Zionist zeal and servile acquiescence by the dual-citizenship crowd such as Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmser et al to put the interests of Zionist aggressors above the interests of the American people, the cause of peace in the Middle East or any thing else. Except for the war profiteering that the likes of Perle are so extremely fond of, there is nothing he likes so much as to debase American policy for a vastly warped agenda of unfailingly unfair militaristic expansion of a poison state in the Land of Abraham brutally turning its innocent neighbor into a prison state. All decent humans should fight to remove a tyrant like Ariel Sharon, and replace him with a decent human being as Prime Minister who should force the extremists on both side of the conflict into a political wilderness from whence they can no longer poison the politics of the region.