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To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1876)	12/4/2003 1:48:52 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Hell who is going to buy 50K SUV's if they don't have a job? I'd like to see Indians, Vietnamese, Mexicans, Iraqis, Afghanis, and others all be able to buy them, if they want them. We're the capitalist engine of the world, and have a history of helping provide opportunity beyond our own borders. As we develop world markets, we develop prosperity and opportunity elsewhere. And that equates to greater freedom and civil liberties. And that's what the fundamentalist terrorists hate and are worried about.

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1876)	12/4/2003 1:58:50 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 90947

Actually no I don't blame Bush for the offshoring issues. I blame Bush for the following scenario that I cannot prove but believe happened. - Bush hires a substandard economic team based on ideology and not talent - this team tells Bush that the Naz stock market collapse means there is a danger of a depression and he should spend like hell to get out of the "rut", imho this was BAD ADVICE - Bush starts spending without much regard to who gets the money, because his team is telling him the economy will recover, jobs are "lagging" blah blah blah - years go by, market recovers sort of, companies recover, still no jobs. - at this point I go from a medium lack of support for Bush economic policies to a complete disregard and distrust of the man as an individual. I believe he had evidence, sometime in early 02, that despite all the other issues going on in the economy that this offshore sucking was #1. It was time, then, to regroup and come up with another alternative. Shore up the budget, deal with the overtax of worker salaries, (salaries taxed higher than passive income etc)- did he do anything to help the crisis? NO! He kept on spending and dolling out the entire treasury to the upper class! Remember the dividend tax cut, somebody please make a case as to what that did for anybody. - now it becomes clear that we have large numbers of long term out of work professionals. Bush doesn't change his strategy of rewarding large corps or high income taxpayers, and instead creates new sticky labels calling his economic plan a jobs and growth package. - next comes the Iraq war which Bush started which takes up all his time and costs another fortune, thats a whole nother issue as to whether Bush was competant or not there. My believe is, when all is said and done, this will be a Xmas retail season that was better than last year, but not great... 04 will be more of the same economically speaking and we have what we have. Well, we'll find out soon enough.