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To: Fishfinder who wrote (25035)	12/4/2003 4:01:00 PM
From: Canuck Dave	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39344

OT Tim drank a lot, but that's not how he died. He also didn't lose the franchise. His wife sold it after he died. Big number 7 (forever in real Leaf Fan hearts) died driving back to Toronto from a game in Buffalo. He was doing a 100 miles an hour in his sports car. I believe alcohol was a factor. CD

To: Fishfinder who wrote (25035)	12/5/2003 8:59:05 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39344

It was his idea to do the franchise in the first place, and its growth was what he foresaw. I think that means he had good business sense. Losing money is part of business. Selling too soon.. maybe he did not want to sell lousy coffee all his life :) He did drink too much, but the accident and the amount of drinking was far overdone by others in the telling. I think I actually outdrank him in my life. It was far more prosaic than that. The story we got at the time was he was playing chicken with cars going the wrong way on the 401. It was not like that at all. He just lost control of the car and ended up the wrong way facing traffic after bouncing across the median. Come to think of it, I have had just as spectacular accidents for roughly the same reason. The only difference is I walked away from them, because I was a better driver, usually driving a better car for that sort of off road driving. The powers that be played it up as a some kind of morality tale. I lost 25 friends in drunk driving accidents before I was 25. That was more of morality message than any single accident. Around that age I stopped speeding and for the most part driving toasted. It took a while to learn. EC<:-}