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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (503785)	12/4/2003 7:17:17 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Yours is exactly the attitude which will keep Dean from being nominated. While we all appreciate his part in joining the criticisms of the neocon Bush agenda and oreganizing the far left, the Dean movement seems more divisive than uniting. That plays into Bush's hands. I get the feeling from Deanies that it's "us versus everyone else". That is the same attitude as on the hard right-wing and the same one Naderites had. In other words, anyone in the middle (the majority who actually decide the elections) are not worthy of respect because they have "compromised" or "sold out". That is quite repelling and worrisome. Frankly as a Democrat, I do not trust the far left to govern this country. I would however fully trust someone like Kerry, Biden, Richardson, Mitchell or Gore. Deanies act as if they're already in and are entitled to the nomination. In reality, they'r really amateurs. The angry left makes up about 15% and they are just the most active, especially early in the campaign season in and around the first two more liberal-voting primaries. Dean is the only candidate they can organize around, unless you want to count Kucinich, so they all picked Dean. Big deal. Meanwhile, the more moderate majority is divvied up amongst five candidates, all of whom are better at uniting the country and not polarizing the parties even more than they already are. Deanies run a real risk now of alienating exactly the people they need to get anywhere close to the nomination. Psssion and commitment we all respect, but arrogance, vitriol and acting as if one has already won before the first vote is cast is a turn-off. Especially true when Dean has so little national and international experience and admits he dodged the draft. Just remember, even if Dean does the very best he can he won't have more than a third of the delegates needed to win. My prediction as of right now, Dean gets 28% while the other five top candidates end with an average of 12.5% apiece. One or two may even have 20%. The others will therefore control who get nominated. That is, the more centrist majority. Those delegates will be very hard for Dean to get and he knows it. But they will be impossible to get if Deanies continue thumbing their noses at the "establishment" Democrats. Remember, those "establishment" democrats have won the last three elections. Yes, Gore did win, though he was cheated out of the job. Dean would have a very difficult time getting anywhere near the amount of national votes which Gore got. For instance, thre is little liklihood he could win Florida or anywhere outside the dozen or so most liberal states. That is the biggest problem with Dean.