To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (504144 ) 12/5/2003 12:04:08 PM From: Johannes Pilch Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 I NEVER asked you to 'apply a moral judgement to nature'! I simply asked if you obeyed that 'moral authority' by deferring to nature's life and death decisions. You obviously are unable to see that by asking such a thing you ask me to apply moral judgment to nature. You are in effect demanding I tell you whether I choose between nature’s determination or whether I ‘fight the will’ of nature to choose my own. That is just stupid and I marvel that you can be so dense as not to see it. There is no decision to “obey” nature or not. My struggle, the human struggle, is itself a part of nature. (sheesh) But this is really quite irrelevant to the point, Buddy. Nature selects as it does and is not to be judged as we are to be judged. We, unlike nature, are morally bound to each other NOT to select as nature selects. That is the point.Clearly, you must not, because you refuse to answer. so, you must be taking your 'morality' from 'nature' on an a la carte basis... No “ala carte” at all. Life is the basis. You are simply being too dense to see the truth of my position. So you erect strawmen. Leftists...(grin)picking and choosing what to accept, and what to resist. Yes. Choose life, resist murder.That tends to vitiate your position, don't 'cha know. It does not. Your question is just stupid. It does not apply to my position at all. It is an entirely different issue.You can not shoot holes in your position... and expect that swiss cheese structure to remain standing. Not a single hole exists. You simply have asked a stupid and irrelevant question that I have nevertheless answered as best as it can be answered in context of this discussion. You seem to think my position requires I accept whatever happens in nature without employing my nature-given abilities to negotiate and live within it. You are quite wrong (how you cannot see this is baffling). Life is the basis of my position and I am free to employ all of my natural abilities to exploit life - so long as I do not infringe upon the life of any other human being. There. Haha. Position intact - no “ala carte,” and not a single error. (grin)