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To: skinowski who wrote (121026)	12/5/2003 7:58:57 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Interesting article, but I think that Mr. Pipes more or less creates an impression that Islamism is a relatively recent phenomenon. It seems that the opposite is true. It appears that violent extremist ideological currents were always present in Islam, going all the way back to the assassination of the 4th Caliph and the Prophet's Son-in-Law, Ali Extremist violence is one thing, but the ideological package of today's Islamists is a new concoction, even if it uses old ingredients. Just as Hitler did not invent the idea of wiping out whole peoples he considered enemies - Attila the Hun was quite good at it too - but added some new ideological twists, chief of which was totalitarianism, a 20th century invention, the idea that citizens are but cogs in the state's machinery, and should allow the state to rule not only their actions but even their very thoughts.