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To: kumar who wrote (19000)12/7/2003 3:33:22 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793623
 
A small, halting, start to getting rid of the Wahhabi Clerics here in this country.



U.S. Revokes Visa of Cleric at Saudi Embassy
Monarchy to No Longer Be Islamic Institute's Sponsor

By Susan Schmidt and Caryle Murphy
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, December 7, 2003; Page A01

U.S. authorities have revoked the diplomatic visa of an influential Islamic cleric, and the Saudi government has decided it will no longer sponsor an Islamic institute in Virginia where he sometimes lectured, moves that reflect both nations' increasing efforts to curb the spread of extremist Islamic rhetoric, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.

Jaafar Idris, who was affiliated with the Fairfax-based Institute for Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America, left the United States two weeks ago after his visa was revoked, U.S. officials said. Idris is a native of Sudan, but was sponsored as a diplomat here by the Saudi embassy and had an office in that embassy's Islamic affairs section, according to a lawyer associated with him.

Idris's departure follows a decision by the Saudi government to stop providing diplomatic status to Islamic clerics and educators teaching overseas, according to a senior Saudi official who declined to be identified. The official said that in the future, only staff with legitimate diplomatic business at Saudi embassies around the world will be given diplomatic visas, part of a larger effort to get Saudi embassies out of the business of promoting religion.

"We are going to shut down the Islamic affairs section in every embassy," the officials said. "That's the objective."

Referring to the Institute in Fairfax, which is a satellite campus of a prominent university in Riyadh, the Saudi official also said: "We're going to sever its ties with the embassy. . . . They will no longer be sponsored by the embassy."

Such a move could complicate the institute's future because its staff, lacking diplomatic status, will be required to obtain visas and work permits to teach in the United States, something that U.S. authorities may be unwilling to provide in some cases.

Officials at the institute could not be reached for comment.

The Saudi action is part of that government's increased vigilance toward expressions of religious extremism after the deadly May terrorist attack in Riyadh that shocked the oil-rich nation and its ruling family. The government has dismissed hundreds of imams from Saudi mosques for allegedly using extremist rhetoric, and has moved to delete language denigrating non-Muslims from school texts and curriculum.

The Saudis also have cracked down on violent Islamic extremists operating in the desert kingdom. In addition, U.S. law enforcement agencies are trying to learn whether hundreds of millions of dollars spent by the embassy here each year have aided extremists in the United States.

If the Saudi government follows through on its pledge to shut down the Islamic affairs offices in its embassies here and around the world, "It would be the first visible sign of an effort to tone down decades of extremist Wahhabi propaganda," said Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, a counterterrorism think tank. Wahhabism is a puritanical strain of Islam that sometimes views non-Muslims and Western cultures as enemies of Islam.

Saudi officials made the decision on the Virginia institute after looking into accusations that it promoted a brand of Islam that critics say is intolerant of other strains of the religion as well as Christianity and Judaism.

The institute, a campus of Riyadh's al-Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud Islamic University, is a "distance learning" center where Arabic and Islamic studies are taught. The chairman of the institute's board of trustees is the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan. The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that the institute has trained at least 75 lay ministers for the U.S. military.

U.S. law enforcement officials complain that a large number of Saudis with diplomatic visas in this country do not have legitimate diplomatic business here. Several others have had their visas revoked in recent weeks, one law enforcement official said.

A State Department official said Idris's visa was revoked because his activities did not conform to the terms of his A-2 diplomatic visa. "Idris was required to perform duties directly related to and in support of the Saudi embassy. . . . It was learned that he was no longer performing such duties on a full-time basis at the embassy," the official said.

Khalid Musa, an official at the Sudanese embassy here, said that Idris left the United States for Sudan two weeks ago. Musa said U.S. government officials have not informed the embassy that Idris had been asked or ordered to leave the country.

In comments in Arabic posted Wednesday by Islamtoday.net, a Saudi-based Web site, Idris said he was questioned repeatedly by FBI agents about his lectures and travels to Europe. He said U.S. authorities asked him to leave the country.

Idris, whose lectures are published on Islamic Web sites around the world, has been a leading figure among Washington-area adherents of Wahhabism. He is president of American Open University in Alexandria and a founder of the Islamic Foundation of America in Springfield, institutions that also promote a very orthodox brand of Islam.

washingtonpost.com



To: kumar who wrote (19000)12/7/2003 3:41:43 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793623
 
Terrorism Jars Jewish, Arab Party Loyalties

By Laura Blumenfeld
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 7, 2003; Page A01

President Bush has her vote, said Dina Shapiro, standing in line at Bagel Power, a Jewish bakery in Scarsdale, N.Y. She applauds his war on terrorism.

Bush won't get her vote, said Alia Charara, standing in line at New Yasmin Arabic bakery in Dearborn, Mich. She fears his war on terrorism.

Shapiro, who comes from a family of liberal Jewish Democrats, sees Bush as a man who is looking after her kin. Her nephew lives in Israel: "Just as I feel Bush is taking care of me, he's taking care of my sister's son."

Charara, whose Muslim family voted for Bush in 2000, sees the president as a man who is persecuting her kin. Her uncle was arrested recently in New York, she said: "They said he was giving secrets to Lebanon when all he was doing was calling his wife."

In the last presidential election, Arabs supported the Republican candidate while Jews overwhelmingly backed the Democrat. That was before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and Bush's response. Since then, the political moorings of the two communities have come loose. Democratic and Republican leaders are trying to catch them as they drift. Though they are small in numbers, Arab and Jewish populations are concentrated in several swing states, such as Michigan and Florida. And Jewish donors play a role in many campaigns.

Sensing an opening, Democratic presidential contenders have reached out to Arab voters, speaking at an Arab American Institute conference this fall in Detroit. AAI President James Zogby, a Democrat, quipped: "They didn't come because we have pretty brown eyes." But then, the Democratic National Committee also held an emergency strategy session last year to address reported Republican gains among Jews.

Republicans, meanwhile, describe a White House so at ease with Judaism that Jay Lefkowitz, then deputy assistant for domestic policy, blew a three-foot shofar, or ram's horn, at a senior staff meeting during the High Holy Days, drawing laughter and applause from senior strategist Karl Rove. But when asked to invite a Sunni Muslim leader to a White House event supporting the Iraq war, Khaled Saffuri, chairman of the conservative Islamic Free Market Institute, said no one would go.

"If you defend this administration, it's like saying cancer is good for you," Saffuri said. Arabs tell him they will vote for a Democrat -- "any Democrat."

Jack A. Abramoff, a lobbyist and a leading Jewish Republican fundraiser, is predicting a more favorable trend in his community. "We could see a tremendous shift," he said. "Bush is the most pro-Israel president in U.S. history."

To be sure, neither the Arab community nor the Jewish community is a monolith. Committed Republican Arab leaders such as Yahya Basha remain loyal to Bush despite "a great deal of stress on the mind and body," Basha said. "I keep gaining weight, and losing hair and teeth." Many Iraqi Americans are pro-Bush because he ousted Saddam Hussein. Dearborn resident Sahib Al-Hathaf, an Iraqi American who fought with a U.S. infantry regiment in Baghdad, described Bush as "second only to Allah" and said, "I'd vote for him 20 times if I could."

Moreover, claims of defections among Jews are exaggerated, Democratic operatives said. Steve Rabinowitz, a Jewish media strategist, dismissed them as Republican spin. "Every two years, our Republican Jewish friends -- both of them, I like to joke -- say this is going to be the year Jews trend Republican," he said. "In November, it proves not to be true."

Jews have been a mainstay of the Democratic Party ever since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was president. That is changing, say Republicans, especially among younger, suburban voters. As one senior Bush administration official put it: "I don't get the eye-rolls at bar mitzvahs anymore."

Matt Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, said that when he campaigned for Bush in 2000, "everyone was suspicious" of Bush's intentions. As governor of Texas, Bush had questioned whether Jews could enter heaven. His father had a strained relationship with the community. In 2000, Bush scraped together 19 percent of the Jewish vote. Since taking office, however, he has cried during a visit to Auschwitz, cold-shouldered Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, and embraced Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as "a man of peace."

Some link Bush's positions to his support from evangelical Christians. "The Bible Belt is Israel's security belt," said Daniel Lapin, a rabbi allied with Christian groups. Others point to Bush's war on terrorism.

"There's a natural synergy. We're all in the same struggle," Brooks said. Indeed, after the attacks in 2001, a group of rabbis wrote a prayer for the president and the military, which Joshua B. Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget, recited in Hebrew at the start of a Cabinet meeting this summer: "Heavenly Father . . . protect the defenders of the United States of America wherever they may be. Bless them with victory."

Arab American leaders cite no post-Sept. 11 Arabic prayer for Bush. Instead, some quote a saying: "Bush is bosh," slang for "Bush is a losing bet." Ahmad Chebbani, a Democrat and president of the American Arab Chamber of Commerce in Dearborn, said, "Now I feel like a hero."

In 2000, Chebbani supported Democrat Al Gore at the endorsement meeting of the Arab American Leadership Council. The majority favored Bush. Gore was seen as too pro-Israel; his running mate, Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.), was a religious Jew. Bush, on the other hand, had courted the Arabs, advocating the elimination of the use of secret evidence for prosecuting suspected terrorists. At the AALC meeting, Chebbani recalled, "people were shouting, almost throwing chairs at each other. I was pounding the table, 'This is a huge mistake!' "

In the general election, Arabs chose Bush over Gore by 14 percentage points. (Arab analysts say the margin would have been bigger, but Green Party candidate Ralph Nader, a Lebanese American, took 17 percent of the Arab vote.) Since then, the Bush administration has imposed stricter immigration policies and has eased restrictions on the use of secret evidence with the USA Patriot Act. Many view Bush's occupation of Iraq and aid to Israel as part of a global war on Islam.

"Now people say, 'We should have listened to you,' " Chebbani said.

In a poll by John Zogby, an Arab American (and James Zogby's brother), 33 percent of Arab Americans said they would vote for Bush, compared with about half of the general population. The 2000 census reported that people of Arab descent were 0.43 percent of the U.S. population and 1.2 percent of the population of Michigan, a swing state.

Jews, on the other hand, are drifting toward the GOP. In 2002, the American Jewish Committee estimated that Jews are 2.1 percent of the U.S. population and 3.9 percent of Florida, also a swing state. A poll by Steven Cohen of Hebrew University found that almost half the Jews who chose Gore over Bush are uncertain they would vote the same way today. Perhaps even more crucial, prominent Democratic donors have crossed party lines. Jack Rosen, president of the American Jewish Congress and a supporter of Democrats, wrote a $100,000 check last year to the Republican National Committee. "It would be a mistake for the Jewish community not to show our appreciation to the president," Rosen said.

There have been crossovers in the Arab community as well. Nabil Sater, a Michigan businessman who calls himself "a Republican orphan," said he feels "lied to, and cheated on," by Bush and by House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), a staunch ally of Israel. For the first time, Sater said, he is giving thousands of dollars to Democrats.

Arab Americans, however, are not a major source of campaign funds. Jews provided at least half the money donated to the DNC in the 1998 and 2000 election cycles. At the RNC, Lew Eisenberg, who is Jewish, was finance chairman until he became finance chairman of the host committee for the Republican National Convention recently. At Bush-Cheney fundraisers in Washington, California, New York and Florida, rabbis gave the invocations.

Ira N. Forman, executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council, said that Jews are the most politicized ethnic group in the country. "Karl Rove has a Jewish strategy," Forman said. "It's largely about money -- but it goes way beyond that."

Democrats have a Jewish strategy, too, they say. For some candidates that has meant shaking the family tree. Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) recently discovered he had Jewish grandparents. Retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark talks of his Jewish father. Former Vermont governor Howard Dean's wife and children are Jewish. Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich's Jewish girlfriend brags that Kucinich is a vegan out of respect for her kosher dietary laws and knows the Passover Seder by heart. But Lieberman, the only Jew in the race, has been disappointed by lackluster Jewish support, campaign workers said; many Jews, especially older, wealthier ones, feel the time is not right to have a Jew at the top of the ticket.

Lieberman shared a synagogue pew for 10 years with Richard Heideman, honorary president of B'nai B'rith International. "We know him. We love him. I respect him," Heideman said. Even so, Heideman, a lifelong Democrat, has decided to give money to Bush: "Things have changed in this country."

Things have changed indeed, said Imad Hamad, director of the American-Arab Anti Discrimination Committee in Michigan. "People would rather swallow Lieberman than deal with Bush," he said. "That's how bad it is."

In September, the FBI told Hamad that he would receive the bureau's plaque for exceptional service. Two days before the ceremony, the award was withdrawn. Agents were concerned about his "problematic" associates who support terrorism, an FBI statement said. Hamad, who campaigned for Bush in 2000, is supporting Dean, the favored candidate of many Arab Americans. "People don't have illusions that the Democrats are the salvation," he said. "But we hope they'll be more evenhanded."

"Evenhanded" has become a trigger word in the Dean campaign. In September, Dean said the United States should be "evenhanded" between Israel and the Arabs. His comments provoked such an outcry among Israel's supporters that Dean hired a Jewish public relations expert, Matt Dorf.

"It was 'Oh, my God, everyone and their mother is criticizing us on Israel,' " said Dorf, who called hundreds of Jewish leaders as part of a damage-control effort. "It was unfair. His heart is with Israel."

His campaign chairman is also with Israel. Steve Grossman, Dean's aide-de-camp, is the former president of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the pro-Israel lobby. "Even if the Jewish elites aren't supporting Dean," said Grossman, "the grass roots has been passionate about Howard Dean, and many are Jews." Bush might do better than he did in 2000 among Jews, he said, but there would be no fundamental realignment.

John Zogby agreed. The pollster's data put a majority of Jews in the Democratic camp, along with the Arabs. In fact, Zogby said, the communities agree on more than one might imagine: They both believe in Israel's right to exist; majorities believe in a Palestinian state; neither likes secret evidence or the Patriot Act -- Arabs because they're the victims, Jews because they're liberals.

His numbers give him hope.

"If I were a political person, I'd put on a loincloth, call myself Gandhi and say, 'Hey, let's talk, guys,' " Zogby said with a laugh. " ' 'Cause it gets settled here.' "

washingtonpost.com



To: kumar who wrote (19000)12/7/2003 11:08:09 PM
From: Neeka  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793623
 
Some politician alleges that President Bush knew about the events of 9/11/2001 before it happened.

Dean talked about it on a radio talk show the other day. Chris Wallace questioned him about the statement today in his debut on FOX News Sunday.

WALLACE: Governor, there is this continuing question, even in your own party, about whether you're fit, whether you're up to being commander in chief. And I want to ask you about a radio interview that you did earlier this week. You were asked about the president suppressing information about what he knew pre-9/11, and here's what you said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DEAN: The most interesting theory that I have heard so far, which is nothing more than a theory, I can't think -- it can't be proved, is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is.


foxnews.com

I agree.....Dean needs to put up, shut up or apologize.

M

PS: VERY NICE GRUB ;)