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Strategies & Market Trends : Gorilla and King Portfolio candidates - Moderated -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/8/2003 10:10:36 AM
From: Apollo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2955
 
<b<Apollo’s Personal Portfolio, November 27th, 2000

QCOM  	  66.8%
EMC 3.7
JDSU 1.0
INTC 8.6
NTAP 1.0
RMBS 18.9


Since November 2000, the biggest difference is that my Rambus shares have increased about 8-fold, and my storage shares are way down.

My single biggest lesson learned?

Easy. Be willing to sell a stock, no matter the tax consequences. For example, I had enormous gains in Qualcomm, entering 2000, but all were short-term gains and would have led to maximum taxation. I stuck with “longterm buy and hold”, my basic investing principle anyway, and sustained enormous losses. Last week, mostly thanx to Rambus and Qualcomm, the portfolio was back to green (0.3%, LOL).

I haven’t formulated an exit strategy, but I am toying with the idea of setting 20% stop loss on all holdings. Opinions on this strategy are most welcome.

Best to all,
Apollo



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/8/2003 11:00:49 AM
From: Mike Buckley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2955
 
Apollo,

If you're willing to accept answers to two of the three questions ...

Single most important thing I've learned: When life-altering profits can be locked in, do so by deploying assets in investment vehicles that provide guaranteed returns. That's because there is no way to predict the future with absolute certainty. (I realize that no return is guaranteed on an after-inflation basis, so I'm referring to a guaranteed pre-inflation return.)

Exit strategy in the event of a bubble: Either a mental stop loss of about 20% or insurance in the form of options for at least part of a holding.

It's very generous of you to conduct the survey. Happy holidays to you!

--Mike Buckley



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/9/2003 9:56:45 AM
From: Don Mosher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2955
 
Personal Portfolio

ARMHY 16%
BEAS 11%
CREE 5%
QCOM 47%
RMBS 18%
SCON 3%

What is the single most important thing I've learned in the past three years?

It is Carlota Perez's (2002) explanation of the dynamics of bubbles and golden ages. Having been caught up in the greed and frenzy of the fifth technology revolution, The Age of Information and Telecommunication,I made and lost a seven figure fortune. Setting aside my personal greed, denial of evidence for the bubble, stubborn adherence to LTB&H, impulsive buys, lack of a sell strategy, penchant to search for off-beat treasures, eternal optimism, and a need for autonomy that overwhelmed prudence and common sense, I did not know of, much less understand, a significant historical pattern know as a "bubble."

Acording to Dr. Perez, each of the four prior technology revolutions followed a recurrent pattern.

First, the Irruption Phase: A world threatened with stagnation as the industries of the old paradigm face markets saturated with mature technology suddenly experience an irruption of new possibilities in new designs, products, and profitability from a new technological paradigm. The ever better, ever cheaper technology attracts entrepreneurs and investment capital.

Second, The Frenzy Phase is taken over by financial capital, whose interests rule the period. The paper economy decouples from the real economy, a time of speculation, corruption, and unashamed love of wealth. Bold and diversified entrepreneurial investments demonstrate by trial and error the potential of the new technology to invent new markets and to rejuvenate the old one. Much of the excess capital investment pours into the infrastructure of the new technology, leading to canal, railway, or Internet mania, with subsequent over investment. The new capacity of money to generate wealth attracts cab drivers, day traders, gurus, and crooks. Shakeouts follow frenzy. Corruption is investigated.

The Turning Point, which is where we are now at the end of 2003, conceptually marks a period of rethinking and rerouting that is necessarily a process of contextual change. The context must change from a frenzy driven by finacial criteria, gone greedy or crooked, to a synergy mode, solidly based on growing production. It reorients us to earnings, margins, and profits not promises of furture profits and mere revenue growth.

With the installation of the new technology completed, the Synergy Phase focuses on production in ways that create dynamic expansion and economies of scale. Although not exuberant, growth can be steady and harmonius, raising the quality of live across economic levels. With the infrastructure in place and becoming ubiquitous, production improves the quality of life. Millionaires are more rare but productive investment and work lead to a peristent accumulation of wealth. "The new paradigm reigns supreme; its logic permeates every activity, from business to government to education."

The Maturity Phase marks the twilight of the golden age. It is a time for quesioning complacency. Markets are saturating and technology is maturing.

These recurring sequences are manifested in parallel, but not absolutely identical, phases across the four prior technology revolutions.

Only by knowing where we are now can we plot our future course. This is the single most important thing I have learned in the last three years.

Should you perceive the makings of another bubble, please describe your exit strategy as it currently exists?

Given this framework and my status as a senior citizen, I do not expect another opportunity or bubble of this proportion in my lifetime. However, I do believe that stock values, even of gorillas, can become unrealistically inflated. I plan to develop an exit strategy, but I have only a few clues toward one at present.

I hope this helps.

Don



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/11/2003 5:44:28 PM
From: J F Allen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2955
 
CASH 50%
INTC 25%
QCOM 12.5%
TXN 2.5%
CSCO 2.5%
TYC 2.5%
EMC 2%
WIND 1%
Dogs 1%
(Too embarrassing to disclose details)

My worst mistakes have been to fail to recognize the weakness's in the internet and software business models and the degree of corruption that was able to exist in the market. TYC WCOM Enron etc.

I am not smart enough to have an exit strategy so I intend to stay in the market balancing put insurance with covered call sales. I really do believe in the long-term prospects
of the US economy.



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/14/2003 7:50:00 PM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2955
 
Portfolio Survey Input

1. Tech Equities (~42% of investable worth) Friday, December 12, 2003

CSCO       21.8%
QCOM 21.6%
NOK 10.6%
INTC 9.3%
MSFT 8.0%
ORCL 5.8%
NTAP 4.8%
SEBL 4.5%
ARMHY 5.9%
EMC 3.9%
JDSU 2.1%
JNPR 1.7%
====
100.0%


1A. Other Equities, Funds, Cash Equivalents (~58% of investable worth)

2. The single most important thing I've learned about tech stock investing the past three years is that tech bear markets can be more severe and prolonged than I might have anticipated.

3. Should I perceive the makings of another bubble, I will define an exit strategy at such time as I perceive it to be in the making. Since my window to retirement has narrowed somewhat since we started discussing "The Gorilla Game," I'll continue to focus more on asset allocation in the future than I have in the past. I'll also continue to do what I've done for years - i.e. rebalance my tech equity investments (all of which are in tax deferred portfolios) at year end, moving at least 20% of my existing equity position to money market, then reinvesting that money in best available equities at best available price points later in the year, if that seems appropriate.

Thanks Apollo, for taking the time to coordinate this.

Best to all,

- Eric -



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/14/2003 8:49:04 PM
From: gdichaz  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 2955
 
Apollo,

Thanks for this effort.

Hope you have received many PMs, since the public responses have seemed fewer than in earlier years - perhaps in itself a comment which speaks volumes.

2. Lessons: My most important is that when you are relatively sure of the substance, stay the course. That has been the case with Qualcomm (although I have made some adjustments, but not to reduce to less than half throughout.)

On the other hand, with JDSU I held too long and should have followed the advice on Kings and held more lightly.

Otherwise I sold throughout the decline and went to cash.

About a year ago, (actually more like 18 months ago), I followed my earlier experience prior to the first gulf war, when it seemed likely, when I invested strongly and did well. This time I invested a major chunk of my non Qualcomm stake by switching both from cash and from some stocks I thought had poorer prospects to those I thought had better.

(See my prior message to you on this subject)

Note: Of course what you see in that prior message is a snapshot as of now.

Except for Qualcomm that will change, perhaps major changes as I put more from those I think have less potential to those who I think have more -- and I will put additional cash back in stocks.

BTW no way will I buy any bonds. I believe that Peter Lynch is correct that bonds are not the way to go, and that is the case in spades right now IMO with interest rates having no way to go but up over the next year or two and therefore bond principal down.

3. At my age and financial situation, no major exit strategy is appropriate. Some selling yes, but not major unless the economy or the world situation requires. As of now, I see one of the best potentials for the stocks of well chosen growth companies here and abroad (China, inter alia) in my lifetime. Of course I may be wrong. Have been before.

Thanks for doing this and best to the many familiar names which I have grown to think I know a bit over the years here and elsewhere on the SI and Fool boards.

Best

Cha2



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/14/2003 11:30:41 PM
From: DaYooper  Respond to of 2955
 
QCOM 52%
QQQ 15%
CSCO 12%
INTC 11%
NTAP 10%

The "single most important thing" I've learned about stock investing is that stocks can become vastly overvalued to their intrinsic worth due to the "supply and demand" equation -- that the old Holland tulip bulb story can repeat itself even in a highly advanced, information saturated, civilization. I still can hardly believe it but now I know it's true.

No exit strategies developed at this point in time. I'm less concerned about developing a bubble exit stategy than I am a recession exit strategy. I don't think we need to worry about a bubble because the lessons have been learned by this generation of investors. Recesssions however are as certain as death and taxes and the markets punish tech stocks dramatically. So I'll be noodling a strategy to safeguard my investments thru the next one.



To: Apollo who wrote (478)12/31/2003 12:37:28 AM
From: tekboy  Respond to of 2955
 
(belated survey response)

1. not really relevant, since individually controlled mad-money account being used for tech investing/education dwindled to a near pittance by late 2001, and spiteful spouse has not yet been willing to permit replenishment of it. that said, I still hold a handful of QCOM.

2. as they say in the military, "hope is not a plan." recognize that the unthinkable can happen, and have thought through what you will do should it start to happen.

3. not really relevant, unfortunately (see 1). that said, if/when I do end up back in and perceive another bubble in the making, I would handle it by a) taking some profits off the table as things continued to rise, and b) being prepared to liquidate the remaining positions if/when things started to burst.

tifkatb@sadderbutwiser.now