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To: Machaon who wrote (505860)	12/8/2003 11:40:12 AM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Hey! I was once an unborn fetus. How come you don't love me!? Likely because, unlike unborn kids, you now pose a threat to human life. The minute you declare your support for the death of any innocent organism on the human continuum, you become a threat to all innocent human organisms. This is true because you can by no means objectively and fundamentally distinguish between the conceptus and an 100 year-old man. We are all one thing in nature. Many humans are more valuable than I am. False. Value is subjective, not objective. As far as nature is concerned, life is the ultimate value, wherever it exists. It is the basis for all things human. I am just a humble, grateful person who loves America, and marvels at this great world. But you don't marvel at the the unborn-- humans who by virtue of their extreme weakness have not intentionally harmed anyone. They are the most innocent of all human creatures and yet not only do you devalue them, you actually scorn them. But, I am surely worth a thousand times more than an unwanted fetus. In and of yourself, you are no more valuable than they. Value is subjective, not objective. My two unborn sons are infinitely more valuable to me than you are. Indeed, were you to die of your cancer tomorrow, I would not shed a single tear. But were my sons discovered with so much as a sniffle, I would be on my knees in prayer to God for them. They are of far greater value to me than you are. But that is no objective commentary on your value in the cosmos. If your actions help to cause overpopulation, and the resulting pollution and destruction of our world, then you are surely of less value to this world than other, more thoughtful, more caring people. You beg the question re: overpopulation. That is fallacious. Even though you are an obnoxious, self centered, danger to others, I won't suggest that you kill yourself, as you suggest to others. Prolife was simply showing you the absurdity of your own "thinking." If humans are so dangerous to the world, then you ought to simply help decrease the population by first encouraging all your family and friends to kill themselves. Then you ought to kill yourself. Practice what you preach. Don't you feel that your uncontrolled anger is a sign that you could have a mental problem? I think Prolife is far less of a threat to me than you. Your devaluation of humans based upon certain of their characteristics is exactly what will destroy Jews in the upcoming Holocaust. Do not be deceived, my friend. That horror is surely on its way. You feel it. Surely you do. You must sense the ever sure increase in tension, the slow but certain isolation of Israel in this world. Exploiting your brand of insensitivity to the value of all human life, the world will think itself justified in "retaliating" against Jews. It is best that we cherish all humanity and live because in nature we are one thing. If we continue to ignore this truth, then we make ourselves vulnerable to ourselves.

To: Machaon who wrote (505860)	12/8/2003 1:59:36 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The majority of "thinking" people agree with me Of course you are wrong, dirtbag, but then you are always wrong. Don't you ever get sick of being wrong? Hey! I was once an unborn fetus. How come you don't love me!? I did not say one way or the other. But why the heck should you care since there are too many of you around anyway? I asked you again, why don't you off yourself if you think that way? You are no more valuable than any other human , born or unborn. What could possible make you think you are? Your own envy and lust? Sorry way to make anyone think you are human. What uncontrolled anger do you think you are speaking of? I never suggested you kill yourself. I merely ask why you did not, since clearly in your warped mind you think we need to rid the earth of some humans and make room for some more whales. Again, what exempts you? I know why....do you? Are you capable of having any clear thought at all, or are you totally gone. Because I am prolife, you make assumptions that I have uncontrolled anger...LOL...you sissies sure have a distorted view of anger. BTW, let's define FETUS for you, since you seem to be a moron. fe·tus n. pl. fe·tus·es The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo. SO , say "fetus" all you wish, you are only proving that you are speaking of an unborn young human being.