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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4360)12/9/2003 5:09:09 AM
From: Don Earl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
<<<The Alex Jones DVD is a bit much for public viewing I think. It's definitely not for audiences who don't have some
inclination to a very conspiratorial mindset.>>>

Ray,

I haven't really looked at much of what's available in the way of documentaries on 9/11. My view has generally been they want too much money for what amounts to a tiny step up from home movies. Since you mentioned it, I did take the time to listen to the streaming media version of the Alex Jones tape. All things considered, I don't think it's all that bad a presentation. I doubt there's any way to soft peddle the truth about 9/11. It also isn't something the uninformed can approach cold and instantly transform the brainwashing into a major revelation. The truth is too terrible to comprehend before growing some armor over the emotional soft spots that are normally immune to belief in the existance of pure evil. For most people, pure evil only exists in works of fiction and doesn't have the power to touch their daily lives. If they live on the West Coast, New York is a long way away. If they live in New York, the Middle East is a long way away. bin Laden is a ghost or an invisible devil that can't touch them except through rare magical events. The concept of a US President bathing in a river of blood of his own design, and who can reach out and destroy any citizen on a whim, is just a little too close to home for most folks to accept in one sitting.

I'm guessing you're looking for something to add to a presentation of some kind. Off hand I'd say anything that contradicts the official fiction is enough to plant the seed, and after awhile the truth sinks in that the official version is as bogus as uranium from Niger.

One thing I saw that caught my attention was a reference to an executive order W-199-I which supposedly made FBI agents subject to arrest if they investigated terrorists sometime prior to 9/11. I've been running some searches, but haven't come up with much beyond vague references to a Greg Palast article, supposedly published by BBC. I wasn't able to turn up a source document on either BBC or Palast's site. If anyone is familiar with this item or has a link, I'd be interested in the details.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4360)12/11/2003 1:55:59 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20039
 
re:"Alex Jones DVD a bit much for public viewing"

I agree, but its fun to try. What's interesting are the recipients of my copies reactions. It's not the bankers, they already suspect dirty doings as a matter of course but resist that the national level can be as bad as their home turf. It's law-enforcement, who see creeping federal control every year and distrust gov't, and they like whodunnits anyway, it's something to talk about over coffee. They see criminals every day and understand that side of human nature.

It occurs to me these documentaries help get the facts out, much as the advent of the VCR helped hasten overturn of eastern european totalitarian states.

I'm wondering what the brilliant GOP strategists have in mind, among their hundreds of scenarios. I heard one today, from uber-propagandist Frank Luntz on Hardball. The new arrow in the quiver of control of '04 is "preparation for terrorism", so he announces a statistic (only 25% are ready), and while saying its unlikely, focuses on gory details of just how dangerous the world is at every moment, and how much Herr Bush and Herr Ridge have been trying to "instruct" us all.

I don't like the direction that particular initiative is going.