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To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/9/2003 10:48:44 PM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

that was amusing dude. sad but amusing...

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/9/2003 11:41:28 PM
From: UnBelievable	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

How About "What Goes Around Comes Around" anyone got a thesis for 2004?????? <vbg>

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/10/2003 8:30:09 PM
From: broadstbull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Dude, my head is spinning after reading that. Sad thing is, it's pretty much all true.

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/10/2003 9:45:17 PM
From: studdog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Great post. Politics now is all about keeping power. Forget principle, just give the ignorant masses what they think they want so we get four more years. Karl@disgustedwithitall.com

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/11/2003 12:43:59 AM
From: benwood	Respond to of 436258

Great comments, sad to say. Nice to see the bit about the steel industry fund raiser. Talk about taking their money and then giving them the finger....

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/11/2003 12:59:21 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

Nice compendium. One thing though.. we have new billions to spend on drug subsidies when we simply could go to canada and buy them all for 1/2 off One fellow on CNBC made the astute observation that the drugs might freeze while in transit from Canada and you know he had a point, I mean it's not like they were coming from Minnesota or Maine... regards Kastel

To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (270129)	12/12/2003 6:16:01 AM
From: Oblomov	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Great comments, but consider the following: A well-meaning Republican/Democratic president won't make the government "good", not matter how hard he or she tries. The faults are within the system itself, or at least within the system they have created. When the federal government is allowed to assume powers outside those granted in the Constitution, it can't be restrained. There's no set of rules that it has to operate within and respect. And it also means that (by the 10th Amendment) it took these powers away from the states or the people. We have gotten addicted to largesse, to "free money," to an ever more munificent and yet more brutal state. Yet somehow we don't see the correlation between munificence and brutality. We think that a good person at the helm will make the system good. This is wishful thinking, and has never been borne out by history. I take some comfort in the fact that the transition of Roman society from freedom to despotism took 200 years or so (we're about 85 years in). And even then, most people didn't notice or care.