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To: PROLIFE who wrote (507711)12/11/2003 6:27:00 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Do you not feel any country could be a decent country if it is an Islamic Republic?

I believe in the separation of church and state. One of these days, we may actually achieve that in the US. Current organized religions are exclusionary by their very nature (we're holy, you're not) so they don't BY DEFINITION work for everyone within the geographic confines of a country. It's like trying to put a circular framework on top of a square one...there's always someone who is excluded.

I don't know what you mean by a, "decent" country. There is nothing stopping a country based on any major religion from being a good neighbor. Just as democracy doesn't guarantee a liberal socio-economic country, religion doesn't necessarily negate it.

I suppose it is always possible to have a religion-based constitution if the religion is secularism. Kind of makes one's head spin just thinking about the possibilities.

Thanks for the link...!



To: PROLIFE who wrote (507711)12/11/2003 6:43:36 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 769667
 
ABC News did a special on how agricultural subsidies add to the obesity problem. Funny how food industry spokesmen and government spokesmen with multiple chins flowing out over their neckties deny the connection. ROTFLMAO.

Corn is so highly subsidized that high fructose corn syrup is in everything now as a filler and flavor enhancer. It's incredibly cheap and has even replaced the more expensive sugar.

Fruits and veggies don't get the huge subsidies that corn (fed to livestock and ingested as things like Oreos) does. Even healthy foods like soybeans aren't being eaten as soybeans but are ingested as soybean oil.

Last year nearly 3000 new food products came to market of which around 90% were highly processed, essentially junk foods. Only about 10% had any resemblance to fruits and veggies (mostly fruits in gelatin and stuff like that).

Wow, the denial is amazing. We now ingest more corn in processed foods than in any other form. Atkins is right about one thing, in order to follow his eating plan, you have to buy from the edges of the supermarket. Everything in the middle is highly processed carbs.



To: PROLIFE who wrote (507711)12/11/2003 7:09:12 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
"Do you not feel any country could be a decent country if it is an Islamic Republic?"

>>> I don't believe we should go out of our way to support any Theocracy.

>>> Free Trade with 'em, fine... wish 'em well, fine... co-operate in defense? Fine, if they add value. But subsidize 'em with taxpayer money? Hell no.



To: PROLIFE who wrote (507711)12/11/2003 7:27:11 PM
From: AK2004  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
re: and I saw no allowance for secularists or followers of any other religion

it also said unless it is contrary to islam which rules out everything but islam

it also give a credit to past heros like bin Ladin

we should invite russians back to afghanistan

re: Do you not feel any country could be a decent country if it is an Islamic Republic?

and no country can be decent if it is based on religion, any religion