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To: RealMuLan who wrote (32597)	12/11/2003 7:21:14 PM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

but how? It starts with the '04 election to remove a government of, for and by the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). I suspect everyone will be surprised at how quickly it's possible to get the US out and the UN/Iraqis in. Mind you, I'm not some goody-two-shoes who thinks that US doesn't have a serious problem in the Middle East. But other than very sparingly, I believe that using the US military worsens the problem. Moreover, I believe than any plan that leaves the military as targets in a shooting gallery, is unacceptable. Of course, this means abandoning the neo-con hegemony dream, but I've considered that dream to always have been a nightmare. JMO lurqer

To: RealMuLan who wrote (32597)	12/11/2003 9:01:00 PM
From: Proud Deplorable	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

>>The sooner the soldiers are extricated from being the targets in a shooting gallery, the better.<< EXCUSE ME! Let them stay in Iraq and get their NAZI heads blown off. They went there and should bear the responsibility. I'm sick and tired of people's bleeding hearts towards these cowardly soldiers who do Bush's bidding. Every man is responsible for his own actions and cannot say "I was only following orders". Thats what the NAZIs said in the war crimes trials. Those who had principles back in the Vietnam war went to jail rather than fight. THOSE PEOPLE TURNED OUT TO BE THE REAL PATRIOTS. HISTORY SHOWS THAT THOSE SOLDIERS THAT WENT TO VIETNAM TURNED OUT TO BE CRIMINALS AND HATED BY REAL HUMAN BEINGS FOR THEIR WAR CRIMES. It's all about power and there are few people out there who call a spade a spade. I'm one of them. Down with America and their world domination plans, their toilet paper currency, and their plans to build WalMarts in Baghdad. There will come a day when Iraqis will sue McDonalds if their coffee is too hot.