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Politics : Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the New World Order -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (208)	12/13/2003 2:10:43 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 512

At some point, we'll reach post-Malthus. Somewhat like some software salesman, I keep saying it'll happen "real soon now", and understand your skepticism and concern. However... after reading those warnings also look at the population projection peak of 9 billion by 2300, and decline thereafter. Then note the progression of food development, dwellings manufacture, energy acquisition (the current real physics kind, not antiquarian 'must-have-oil' kind). That says the engineering and physics aren't the problem with that growth. What you're referring to is a fear of disorganization, self-destructive de-civilizing caused by forced mechanization of increasingly stupid masses struggling to survive at an ever-lower level of humanity. I'm more optimistic. It seems impossible, but here's why - the vast wasteland of media, which is admittedly getting worse not better, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the chimpanzee-level Industrial-Fascist-Complex of violence and disinformation, which is in its dying throes. Contrary to the phony images we are getting, unless we just give up, the Bush adminsitration is not self-correcting and is on the verge of a massive collapse. This is good in a perverse way, because it is forcing the inevitable confrontation between ignorance and cyberspace in the political realm. Highly speculative perhaps, but look at the facts -- we are communicating in a non-destructable medium. Even the pre-digital Gulags were permeable, and that was just paper. So if that is inevitable, we can get back on track with aforementioned technical upward virtuous spiral of baseline prosperity and creature comforts. To answer your next question, "What about the increasing primitive viciousness I see everywhere?", that's the artifact of control, like ancient Rome and its 400 years of gladiators coming after the inspiration of Socrates, followed by the Dark Ages, but then the Rennaisance again. We'll see a new Rennaisance, if we survive this. The premise of my optimism is that the upcoming post-Apocalyptic Rennaisance can handle unlimited human population, as the source for engineering disciplines, and unlimited collective creativity on all levels of the arts and commerce. (I know, it would be more comforting to be able to cite instances of overloaded and tragic metro areas that were eventually converted to safe and inspired paradises, like Bombay becoming Seattle. I'll let you know when I find one <GG>...)