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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (508928)	12/13/2003 5:03:45 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

I assure you that the Talmud and Rashi passages are authentic and that Jews hold them both in high regard. The Babylonian Talmud Yevamot 69b states that: "the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day." Afterwards, it is considered subhuman until it is born. "Rashi, the great 12th century commentator on the Bible and Talmud, states clearly of the fetus 'lav nefesh hu--it is not a person.' The Talmud contains the expression 'ubar yerech imo--the fetus is as the thigh of its mother,' i.e., the fetus is deemed to be part and parcel of the pregnant woman's body." 1 This is grounded in Exodus 21:22. That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman's miscarriage, which kills the fetus If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman's husband. If the woman dies, then the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person. Dismissing that which challenges or contradicts what you believe as lies is a sign of a feeble mind. I don't see you that way. Atheism isn't a religion. It simply means without theism. And evolution is a product of the scientific method. So say what you mean: you don't want the schools teaching science that contradicts your faith based beliefs. It's a legitimate position, a stupid one, but legitimate. Steve Dietrich