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To: American Spirit who wrote (2700)	12/14/2003 12:37:50 PM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<<Who's spinning? Just stating the facts. Obviously Saddam is not the one behind the violence. He looked like a rat hiding in a hole. He had no support and only 750 K on him.>> you're really funny. How much do you carry as walking around money?? I'd guess his little stash was at least 3 times your personal net worth.... btw, your entire post is laden with your opinion and absolutely no FACTS. there is a difference, you know.<g>

To: American Spirit who wrote (2700)	12/14/2003 7:31:11 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Best way to do that is diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy. Get the US face off the occupation and install a relatively honest Iraqi government. That work should have all been planned before invading. You're so full of it that my computer is emitting foul odors. Your mantra, "diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy," one of Kerry's most favorite words, is, of recent times, merely a democrat code word or euphamism for, "relent to our wrong-headed 'friends' in the UN, France, Russia, and Germany." The French, UN, Russians, and Germans are the ones who need to engage in "diplomacy." With us. They've taken us for granted as the world's problem solvers, daddys, mamas, and whipping boys for too long. Tony Blair ought to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with our President, George W. Bush.

To: American Spirit who wrote (2700)	12/15/2003 9:51:58 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Obviously Saddam is not the one behind the violence. Yeah, he was out of the loop, hiding in a hole with "no support." Wrong again, AmSpin. But U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling of the 1st Armored Division told The Associated Press in Baghdad that the first round of Saddam's questioning and documents in a briefcase found with him was "connecting the dots" in intelligence on the insurgency. Since Saddam's capture, U.S. Army teams from the 1st Armored Division have captured one high-ranking former regime figure — who has yet to be identified — and that prisoner has given up a few others, Hertling said. All the men are currently being interrogated and more raids are expected, Hertling said. "We've already gleaned intelligence value from his capture," Hertling said. "We've already been able to capture a couple of key individuals here in Baghdad. We've completely confirmed one of the cells. It's putting the pieces together and it's connecting the dots. It has already helped us significantly in Baghdad." Hertling said: "I'm sure he was giving some guidance to some key figures in this insurgency." story.news.yahoo.com

To: American Spirit who wrote (2700)	12/15/2003 10:03:08 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam By Con Coughlin (Filed: 14/12/2003) telegraph.co.uk Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist. Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service. The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad. In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy". The second part of the memo, which is headed "Niger Shipment", contains a report about an unspecified shipment - believed to be uranium - that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria. Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine. "We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks." Although Atta is believed to have been resident in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq. Abu Nidal, who was responsible for the failed assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades.