To: John Carragher who wrote (3380 ) 12/14/2003 8:59:26 PM From: marcos Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37233 Wouldn't bother me if they let you in John, you're not a bad guy imho .... but i dunno about your wife, got to be careful about them irish, we had a lot of trouble already with that fenian raid business, you know It's all twisted anyway when issues get presented as between countries - take this current neocon approach of starting up war with Iraq/Canada et al - it is in their interest to present it domestically as USA vs Saddam and Friends, but that is such bullshit, it's not that way at all ...... really it is the PNAC bunch versus the Rest of Us, and a reasonable administration would have had us onside all along Same with softwood lumber, that is the pine lobby and Washington officials they can buy off versus all the rest of us in the trading bloc ..... governmental machinery is all we have to deal with the situation, but this does not make the struggle between the peoples of two countries, who are in this case truly 'children of a common mother' just like the peace arch says .... Dame Britannia getting a little behind on her spanking duties, is all -g- .... cheers [edit] - some discussion of prop-rep vs fptp above [migawd, are all finns that hyper?] ... well, México has two fifths of the Cámara [house of commons, like the US lower house] elected by prop-rep ..... there are advantages, it leads to quite small parties getting a degree of power, for instance it enabled Fox to beat the PRI, which would have been unlikely to happen without the support he got from the Verdes [green party] .... but now, the Verdes and a couple of others want a great deal for their votes, this position gives them overweight power, it is not always an advantage ..... i've never thought out all the pros and cons of prop-rep, but a recent story we were arguing on a thread of mexicana politics leads me to think that such power to splinter parties removes forces that would otherwise encourage parties to move towards the centre, where the people tend to be [edit 2] - example of that is the new Conservative party here, they have in their constitution a commitment to national healthcare .... Reform/alliance was perceived to endanger the system, and was unelectable for that reason .... rightly or wrongly, two-tier medicare was just a non-starter, a complete waste of time to impose on the political process