To: tsigprofit who wrote (5002 ) 12/15/2003 11:56:19 AM From: rrufff Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20773 TSIG - Seriously - you may be drinking a bit from the conspiracy water. I'm a cynic and have done much work on the JFK conspiracy and have friends who have made that their life work. So I'm not a party line person. However, in today's world, there is just too much info available and resources, to put together grand schemes. The most that politicians can do today is the little lies and those come back and bite them in the ass. See, e.g. the WMD fiasco. No way they held up this news. The primaries haven't even begun. The election campaign is way off in the future. Bottom line, if they had him, there are too many people to be silenced to prevent this news from coming out. "We are close" does not mean they have him. Look how many times we have heard that we are close to getting OBL. From the looks of the hideout, it's likely that Saddam was stepped over many times by US troops. It was a turn coat who likely gave up Saddam this time, rumors are that it was a family member. The fake turkey is really bogus. The big picture is he went there and boosted morale. Whether one likes Bush or not, the facts are still facts. I applaud him for it as I am critical of much of what he does. It really is kind of sour grapes to focus on "the show." Every nation's leaders have the show. The problem with no monarchy is that the President has to do the monarch's show. (As an aside, I've argued for a 3 President system with 6 year no re-election, with spheres of influence in 1)international and war 2)domestic and economic 3)pseudo monarchy and funerals. How's that for a goofy theory? <gggg>) Unfortunately, goofy conspiracy theories do not help bring out the truth. I want to see thorough investigations but we have to stay on the wall and not off the wall. I agree that the WMD PR fiasco at the beginning was just awful and the Bush team invited much, if not most, of the criticism. But overdoing it the other way does not solve any problem. It just provides a message that true moderates will ignore. As for Saddam attacking us, he attacked the world, his own people and supported terrorism in many ways, and the world is better off w/o him as are his people. That begs the issue, I agree, of whether of not the US should do these things alone and I agree again that this is a tough question.