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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (6259)	12/16/2003 7:17:01 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

chinu. you said...." And let us wait when the Muslim world will soon start saying: "America thank you, now go home".... Would you care to explain what muslom/islam has to do with this war??? You have been saying over and over and over that islam has nothing to do with this war/terrorism.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (6259)	12/16/2003 4:10:23 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Hawk, you sound very cocky, OK. Baghdad still does not have the daily necesisities. Very soon, the Baghdadis will start blaming the US for all their woes. Start? They already are.. It's the usual case of human psychology where a "pampered" people, the Sunnis, blaming everyone but themselves for their predicament. The Kurds and Shiites seem to be complaining far less about their situation, even though certainly not perfect.. The bottom line is that few Iraqis, if any, are starving or lacking medical care. So their basic needs are being met to sustain themselves. But what they obviously desire is economic opportunity. And given the dysfunctional nature of the Iraqi economic system, it will continue to take some time for improvement to reveal itself.. And even as the situation improves, it's human nature to demand even more from what they perceive as a rich nation, rather than finding it within themselves to create their own future.. There's something to be said for adage, give people fish and feed them for a day.. Teach them how to fish, and feed them for a lifetime.. One of the things that MUST be finalized, other than domestic security, is stabilization of the financial system and some establishment of property and human rights (preferably instilling the concept of those rights being inalienable). Only with property rights, including title and deed, can an economy TRULY be sustainable, while also providing a political hedge against unaccountable regimes regaining power. The problem you seem to have is that you show NO DESIRE to attempt to instill such modern and progressive values, even if it has to occur through the public education system. It's not like American values are so distasteful to the average individual.. It's the power elite that fear such concepts. Hawk