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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bentway who wrote (511277)	12/16/2003 11:00:32 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The the Turks can get involved with the Kurds and the Saudis can continue their underground support against any and all democracies on their border while Bush and Baker get rich from them and never solve the real problems CC

To: bentway who wrote (511277)	12/16/2003 11:10:32 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Yes, it's inconceivable that the IGC actually means to do what they've said they're going to do. It's unimaginable that Shi'ite leadership has no intention of turning on the coalition to impose an Iranian-style theocracy. It's just unfathomable that the majority of Iraqis might be happy to be liberated from Saddam, might actually appreciate coalition efforts, and might understand that our continued presence is to their benefit until they can establish a democratic government and provide for their own internal security. Well, it is to you, anyway.

To: bentway who wrote (511277)	12/17/2003 3:29:31 AM
From: Rick McDougall	Respond to of 769670

The Kurds are split into Shiite & Sunni as well. Throw in the Persians crossing the border & the US prodding Syria with a big stick via Israel. Where does Jordan, Yemen & Turkey stand? Eventually we will loose the Egyptians.Its a total *^&# mess.

To: bentway who wrote (511277)	12/17/2003 4:53:44 AM
From: JDN	Respond to of 769670

There seems to be three of you on this thread that are highly suspicious of Bush's motives and dont see how anything other then a theocracy can exist in Iraq. I would point out the following: 1. The Iranian young people seem to be interested in establishing something other then their current theocratic government--They are Shiites. 2. The Kurds already have set up in their portion of Iraq a government pretty much along Democratic principles. 3. The BEST protection the Sunni's and the Kurds could have would be to have a DEMOCRACY based upon the rights of the INDIVIDUALS ie something with a BILL OF RIGHTS just as we have. So, I believe some type of Democratic government IS POSSIBLE in Iraq, and frankly is LIKELY. Sure there will be jockeying for position JUST AS THERE WAS IN AMERICA as the founding fathers jockeyed to protect the rights of THEIR STATES. The media likes to blow these things out of proportion to make NEWS when in reality its merely the NORMAL PROCESS of selection. I have not even read of any current CIVIL WAR type activity. JDN