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Politics : Support the French! Viva Democracy! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zonder who wrote (4116)	12/17/2003 12:22:44 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7834

Must be too complicated to spell it out...."We oppose tyrants....sometimes.....in some places.....under some circumstances....absent any mitigating circumstances, of course....like trade ties or nuclear retaliation or stepping on our remaining allies' toes.....or if we buy a lot of stuff from them that we need.....and especially if they piss us off personally.....and they aren't located in some godforsaken corner of the planet we don't give a crap about....and we have enough troops available without calling up the reserves for the next five years.....and Cheney says it's good idea....and it makes Colin nervous.....heh heh heh....what a wimp...what was I talking about again?"

To: zonder who wrote (4116)	12/17/2003 12:25:09 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 7834

That is called "neocon pragmatism" these days. (one extremely important part of "neocon ideology", plus "the (our) goal makes all methods holy", or whatever way it went) Check the Perle link I provided. Although it is mostly empty sentences stringed to each other, or maybe because it is, it also gives a good picture of "the debate-climate" outside of the regular media, as well as congress.