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To: mishedlo who wrote (33157)	12/20/2003 1:30:49 AM
From: laura_bush	Respond to of 89467

Sorry, Mish. I responded from a purely "what's in it for Bush" perspective. Because I'd like to get out on the table precisely why the a**hole is interested in regulating what school children wear to public schools in the first place. But I DO know that. And so do you. He doesn't seem particularly interested in Federal legislation in this country on gun control, for example. Stepping aside from the Bush Adminstration telling other countries WTF to do with their nation's government, here's what I think about schools in the US. Public education should continue to be free of charge for all children in the United States of America. Dress codes can easily be established and maintained per local school school district -- STATE AND LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS -- who determine that certain minimal body-covering standards, such as shirts, shoes, etc. are required. In which parents have a MAJOR role, correct? Through the school's PTA? All else ... including body piercing and tattoos -- hair color/length -- head coverings including burkhas, if desired -- are okay -- BUT SHOULD BE LEFT TO LOCAL school administrators to determine. If, for example, gang problems exist in a particular local school district or school, the district school board OR the individual school principal could establish a dress code that prohibits gang-identifying head gear, such as bandanas. The Bush malAdministration wants to "treat" adults running school systems, individual schools and classrooms as if they are "stupid." Straight out of the Karl Rove handbook of domestic warfare. lb

To: mishedlo who wrote (33157)	12/20/2003 10:10:19 AM
From: Edscharp	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

misheldo, Your post puzzles me. If you're anti-Bush then fine, but why would that affect your view of free expression of religion? We are talking about the right to wear an item of religious symbolism, we are not talking about the right to evangelize religious beliefs in a school room. If you live in the USA you must know that organized school prayer in public schools is against the law. Any principal of any public school that allowed it, much less encouraged it, would be subject to civil and criminal penalties. Also, who will decide what constitutes a relgious symbol? Suppose Christians are banned from wearing crucifixes. Suppose 10% of all Christians then decide to start wearing green colored belts as expressions of their faith. Do you ban green belts too? These kinds of laws are silly, stupid and unenforceable. On the subject of telling France what to do I am astounded by the response I've seen. France is a sovereign state. No American can tell them, much less force them, what to do. No matter what is said France will do exactly what they want to do, but it seems to that American's are entitled to their opinions. If France doesn't think much of our opinions then fine, but what exactly is your problem with that? You asked how the U.S. would feel if France butted into out affairs. Well, where have you been? The entire world is unafraid of letting us know exactly what they think of us and why. There are certainly no shrinking violets on this board and from a host of people that clearly do not reside in this country. It's called 'free speech'. I don't understand why your hatred of Bush would allow you to lose sight of that. I will leave the subject of 'US hypocrisy' for another post. It falls hand-in-hand with the subject of world hypocrisy and the belief that the US has monopoly on hypocrisy.