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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TigerPaw who wrote (513754)	12/21/2003 12:42:14 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

TP: I tend to agree with you...Yet, IMO a lot of the smart money will bet on Clark in '04. -s2@defeatingBushisjob1.com

To: TigerPaw who wrote (513754)	12/21/2003 2:58:38 AM
From: Red Heeler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

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To: TigerPaw who wrote (513754)	12/21/2003 5:52:55 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 769667

BUSH LIES DEPT.: Investigative reporter in Iraq researches the Samarra massacre: Samarra-US Military Using Weapons of Mass Deception? Dahr Jamail, Wildfirejo.org.uk, December 12, 2003 ... During the days immediately following the battle, as people began digging deeper, the US military steadfastly held to their figures while the residents from Samarra were drawing more distinct lines in their painting of what occurred that Sunday. According to the US military in Iraq, the method used to obtain their ‘kill number’, was to ask each soldier how many people he killed, add the numbers, and this is the total. Needless to say, this lends the high probability of error. Since the battle raged throughout the streets of the city, full of innocent Iraqis, if a soldier shot and wounded someone it would be an easy mistake for him to have thought this person was killed. If we add up the numbers given by the Samarra hospital, 8 killed, 50 wounded, then it begins to shed light on the possibility that the method of tabulating kills by the Americans is subject to error. I went to Samarra four days after the battle, to get the facts for myself, and to interview people who witnessed the incident. The story the people of Samarra are telling about the fight this past Sunday goes something like this: US soldiers were guarding a delivery of money to the bank in Samarra, gunfire was heard in the distance and the jumpy Americans opened fire, riddling the city center with bullets, killing 8 civilians and wounding 50 in the process. ... Ismail Mahmoud Mohammed is the police chief of Samarra, appointed by the US. “Were the French happy under the Nazis? It is the same thing here.” Mr. Mohammed went on to tell the Financial Times that the Occupation forces had long since gone too far in their provocations of the residents of Samarra. ... Sheikh Abbas sums up in one line what is, perhaps, the greatest contradiction to what the Americans have said about the incident. “The great evidence is that all the people of the city are talking about the same story, only one story.” ... Is it possible for every resident of Samarra to be telling the same uniform lie, with all the same details? Or is it possible that the US military, desperate for some form of good news to broadcast to the world and its troops about the occupation of Iraq, used an attack on its forces in Samarra as part of a “tactical perception-management campaign?” Dahr Jamail is an American freelance journalist currently in Baghdad. wildfirejo.org.uk [RGD: A tip of the hat to Bilow at FADG for finding this item.]