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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (43749)	12/21/2003 4:49:53 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

I have pretty much the same idea in mind for a separate thread that addresses the #1 issues. My intention is to imitate WH Chief-of-Staff Andy Card and introduce the product after the holidays. :) My advice to you is too put me on ignore if you don't like the message. Free speech means I can say it, not that you are forced to listen to it. :) You might, however, miss some of the quirky details I manage to ferret out. Here's a case in point: An Interesting Speculation about the Capture of Saddam: Subject: Betrayed by dates? News Updates from Citizens for Legitimate Government December 20, 2003 legitgov.org All articles, dates, and links from summaries below are here: legitgov.org Betrayed by dates? "...As far as we can determine, the latest date harvest possible in Iraq is in October. We know that most Iraqi dates are harvested in August. The dates shown in the fourth picture here [the 'capture' of Saddam Hussein] are supposedly from December 16, 2003." --submitted by Mark Yannone "Yellow dates in December? US soldiers lift the cover of the spider hole where Saddam Hussein was hiding, when the troops captured him on December 13. The photograph shows a date palm laden with yellow fruit in the background. One of our readers, Mr. Sabeel Ahmed insists that, normally, yellow dates are seen only during the months of July-August and not in December." --submitted by Jim Mooney "While it appears in other areas of the middle east, there are several varieties of date that might be described as 'yellow' when they are ripe, one (see Date Palm of Nizwa) maturing into December, there appears to be none in Iraq, and that the yellow dates of Iraq, would appear to be ripened Sept-Oct. In Dec. they would not be." --submitted by Flash Address to receive newsletter: clg_newsletter-subscribe@mlm.legitgov.org Address to not receive newsletter: clg_newsletter-unsubscribe@mlm.legitgov.org (or, pls. write to: signup@legitgov.org, and I can add your name to the roster) The CLG Newsletter is edited by Lori Price, General Manager, Citizens for Legitimate Government.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (43749)	12/21/2003 5:07:40 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello Malcolm, Allow me an un-PC moment. Raymond is one of the many folks who, for whatever tenuous reasons, believe that the trip towards TeoTwawKi, once we are well within the TPonRr (see definitions achamchen.com ) event horizon, can be sidetracked. Raymond thinks ‘inevitable’ means ‘if we all pull the oars together, we can save our ship’ without TwoAPuc, whereas I believe when the ship is obviously about to sink, perhaps it is best to edge over closer to the life jackets, because they are the NToeAwsBe. Raymond will go down fighting. I will watch him go down fighting. I a, however, very optimistic about WoNawNoKi, a world that will be full of Abracadabras (see definition achamchen.com ), but one that will be quite familiar Message 18243386 , as in 'we have been here before' :0) Chugs, Jay