To: LindyBill who wrote (20754 ) 12/21/2003 10:35:07 AM From: NickSE Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793698 More on possible NY match-ups... Pols are looking beyond 2004 election in New Yorknewsday.com ALBANY, N.Y. -- Sen. Charles Schumer running for governor, possibly against former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani? Gov. George Pataki taking on Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton? With independent polls showing Democrats beating President Bush next year in New York and the GOP still lacking a big-name challenger to Schumer's 2004 re-election bid, attention is turning to possible 2006 campaigns. That is the year when New Yorkers could be treated to two major and highly competitive statewide campaigns _ for the governorship now held by Republican George Pataki and for the U.S. Senate seat held by Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton. While Clinton is expected to seek re-election _ her campaign committee Web site tells you how to help her do that even though she refuses to say if she is definitely running for a second term _ Pataki has not made his intentions clear. Conventional wisdom has Pataki not running for governor again but his campaign committee is still actively raising money that could be used in such a race. To run again, Pataki would have to confront the matter of the fourth-term curse. Democrat Mario Cuomo sought a fourth term as governor in 1994 and was defeated by Pataki. One of Pataki's chief political mentors, Alfonse D'Amato, sought a fourth Senate term in 1998 and was ousted by Schumer. Also, Pataki has become a major fund-raiser for President Bush and the national GOP in recent months, fueling speculation he might be interested in a Bush administration job or even replacing Dick Cheney on the 2004 GOP ticket should the vice president not seek re-election. Cheney has said he plans to run again. Then again, Pataki cut his statewide political teeth as a junior campaign aide to the late Nelson Rockefeller who is the only candidate ever elected to four, four-year terms as governor of New York. Whatever scenarios are on Pataki's mind, it is true that he is building up political chits. That has prompted some thought it could be a prelude to Pataki challenging Clinton's expected re-election bid in 2006. For such a race, Pataki would need to raise a tremendous amount of money. GOP friends across the country could be a major help with that task. Republican leaders have said stopping the former first lady in 2006 is a priority given the widespread speculation she could be a Democratic presidential candidate in 2008. On the political sidelines for the moment is Giuliani. But the former mayor has said he may well run again for public office _ probably senator or governor in 2006. A race by Giuliani against Clinton would complete a contest interrupted in 2000 when the mayor quit the Senate campaign in the face of prostate cancer and marital problems. There have been reports recently, however, that Pataki loyalists are encouraging Giuliani to instead run for governor in 2006. The Pataki camp denies that. The attraction of running for governor is that in recent times, most successful candidates for president have come out of governor's mansions, not the Senate. Don't discount that fact because governors, like most other mortals, usually do have dreams of bigger things. Nonetheless, bringing down Clinton would immediately elevate the victor to the GOP pantheon of political heroes and propel that person into contention for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination. Pataki and Giuliani already have footholds in that GOP pantheon _ Pataki for bringing down liberal icon Cuomo in the 1994 governor's race and Giuliani for his post-Sept. 11 leadership in New York City. On the Democratic side of the aisle, the clear front-runner for the party's gubernatorial nomination in 2006 is state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who has gained national attention for his investigations of Wall Street and mutual funds. At the same time, there are rumblings that Schumer _ perhaps tired of competing with Clinton's Senate celebrity _ may aspire to be governor. A Spitzer-Schumer faceoff could be a high-spending affair. Schumer already has more than $18 million in his campaign war chest, most of which could probably be legally converted to a race for governor. Spitzer is the son of a multi-millionaire New York City real estate developer.