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To: lurqer who wrote (33466)	12/24/2003 4:55:33 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Is the Bush Administration the greatest enemy of the people of the United State? Is the BSE story a tale that Americans can understand easily enough to see that they are the intended victims of Bush's mad scheming? Here's some interesting and distrurbing reading about the potentially lethal aspect of Bush's obsessive secrecy regime: Message 19625969

To: lurqer who wrote (33466)	12/24/2003 5:00:47 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 89467

BSE Journal: Obviously, I need to know more. John Stauber, highly acclaimed author of "Toxic Sludge Is Good For You", has a book out called "Mad Cow USA". The beauty part of this is that it is a free download on the Web. prwatch.org For breaking news from the honest side of this debate, be sure to keep an eye on PR Watch, Stauber's usual haunts: prwatch.org

To: lurqer who wrote (33466)	12/24/2003 5:02:23 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 89467

Wednesday, December 24, 2003 Mad Cow USA: The Nightmare Is Here Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber's 1997 book Mad Cow USA warned that unless the US adopted the same strict regulations implemented in Britain, including a ban on feeding rendered slaughterhouse waste as animal feed, mad cow disease would eventually emerge in the US. The US failed to act and late Tuesday the Secretary of Agriculture Ann Veneman announced that the first US case of mad cow disease has appeared in a "downer cow" in the state of Washington. Within minutes of USDA's news conference John Stauber was interviewed on CNN and Rampton or Stauber were interviewed in The New York Times, The Guardian and other media refuting the reassuring spin of the USDA. Center for Consumer Freedom, a tobacco, booze and food industry front group, wasted no time attacking Rampton and Stauber on behalf of its corporate funders such as Excel/Cargill, National Steak & Poultry, Outback Steak House, Tyson Foods, Wendy's, Whitecastle and others. The first case of mad cow disease in North America was found in Canada in May, 2003. You can read an interview Stauber gave this August warning that the disease was likely also in the US. In related news, Nature reports what might be the first case of human mad cow disease spread by blood transfusion. In laboratory experiments blood plasma can spread mad cow-typed diseases, but the US government allows calves to be fed milk formula containing cattle blood plasma as a source of protein. Source: Various, December 24, 2003 Discuss: prwatch.org

To: lurqer who wrote (33466)	12/24/2003 10:23:19 AM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Thoughts on Mad Cow Disease From Brodsky on Minyanville Normally, I would go on my usually rant about how the media blows everything out of proportion (true) and how if we stayed glued to our TV’s and listened to the “Mad Cow experts” we would hear about how we are all doomed! Well not to worry, I hear Howard Dean is saying that by containing the case and capturing the infected cow, America is in fact NO safer than it was yesterday. The democrats are taking immediate action but before doing anything rash, like isolating the cow, or killing it, they want to have a committee to discuss what to do and word is they are calling for the UN to come in and to secure the area. They told the Germans and the French not to worry, they WILL be included in the bidding of contracts to clean up this Mad Cow mess. While the democrats certainly don’t want to offend any cows by killing the infected one, and while they are currently tangled up in “pointing the finger” committees, I heard that Bush just got word of the problem and is taking care of it right now. No committees, no meetings, the Mad Cow is a threat to national security and Bush has ordered that it be hunted down and killed. Of course the French and Germans are upset because Bush didn’t bother to get the blessing of the UN who wanted to send in Hans Blix’s team to find hard proof of this so-called Mad Cow. Not wanting to upset the world again, Bush has agreed to send in The UN Mad Cow team. The team lead by Blix, is currently testing the area but after 10 hours of being “mislead” by the Mad Cow ranchers they have concluded that Mad Cow does NOT exist in said area and everything is ok. Shortly, after receiving this report Bush and Rumsfeld have order all US diplomats out of the area and have issued a warning that time has expired, and action must be taken. Now the democrats are currently flip-flopping about whether they back the removal of Mad Cow, which is clearly a threat, or maybe to oppose it. “After all, it is only one cow that has it now,” said Howard Dean, “how do we know that it will spread. If I was president, I would wait to see if it spreads, then we would know that it is a threat and we can take action!” A reporter then posed the question to Dean, “Gov. Dean, won’t it be too late then?” Dean, rolling up his sleeves and turning beet red with anger, turned to the reporter and exclaimed, “Its all Bush’s fault! I may have no specific solutions but whatever the problem is, the answer is removing Bush!” Well, as I am penning this story, I just saw a breaking news piece fly across CNN saying that after dropping a Moab bomb the cow has been killed and we are now in the process of rebuilding the ranch. Contracts have been given to Halliburton exclusively for rebuilding the destroyed barn and replanting the grazing fields that have been fried by the Moab. CNN has blamed the case of Mad Cow on the Israelis and are lining up experts to talk about how more diplomatic measures should have been taken. It is reported that Edward Kennedy, wiping the eggnog from his chin, muttered, “The innocent Americans have been lead to these means by a fraud, this is all a fraud!” That was all that could be extracted from the senior Mass senator, because shortly after he fell into a deep eggnog induced sleep.

To: lurqer who wrote (33466)	12/24/2003 3:18:46 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

This was written by an SI poster and is published in the new issue of Foreign Affairs... foreignaffairs.org btw, Steven Rogers is a journalist based in the Philippines and he posts on SI's Foreign Affairs Discussion Group thread.