SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : Booms, Busts, and Recoveries -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: pezz who wrote (43896)12/24/2003 9:54:55 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 74559
 
Hello Pezz, <<<<I am asking myself the important question, 'will currency and gold be as good for looting in 2004 as they were in 2003?'>>

LOL ....Please don't keep us in suspense... anybody care to guess? %^)>>

:0)

The question is likely to be as important for 2004 as it had been for 2003.

I think 2003 has been interesting, especially for the investor electorates.

The markets, and it didn’t much matter which markets, were flooded with US liquidity, gorged on Japanese deluge, and bloated on China flood, and everything, or just about, went up, at least a little.

Those who invested in S&P500 lost around 5-20% in purchasing power depending on their home currency unit, and those who speculated in the likes of Argentina or gambled on Indonesia and such gained, and gained huge.

A note for the journal: it is best to have speculate in a rising stock market situated in a country with a rising currency scheme, and worst to have gambled in a losing stock exchange located in a nation with a collapsing money regime.

I think the NToeAwsBe ( definition achamchen.com ) for 2004 will remain gold.

Chugs, Jay

A look backward achamchen.com

… and …

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=18215215
<<November 8th, 2002
Hello Maurice, Do times get better than they are now?

The game for 2002 is coming to an end. Argentineans won, but only if denominated in their own currency, and only if they had held Aztec gold. Q-chanters won, but only relative to Enron-ians, and not even relative to ZIM holders.

Everybody lost against scurrying gold bugs and squiggling platinum worms, except perhaps dozing London real estate owners (EDIT: this sets up the show for 2003).

I feel secure in the knowledge that a world of still-entranced maurices, oops, I meant to say zombies, all worshipping their respective omnipotent but not all-knowing (not to mention never dusty archive browsing) maestros are somehow, inexplicably, making me wealthier in so many exotic ways: imploded Argentina, still interest paying Australia, busying China, relaxed EU, fearful Hong Kong, dazed Japan, WAT-ed Pakistan, last-resort-standing Thailand, oiled Russia, gilded South Africa, anti-social Switzerland, lost Zimbabwe, and soon, the grand-slam prize, debt-ed USA.

And by so much varied means: grinding equity declines, euphoric stock rallies, range-bound random walks, currency perturbations, negative interest loans, positive carry fixed deposits, distressed bonds, faithful debts, ladder-ed sovereigns, straddled options, naked puts, covered calls, empty warehouses, leased shops, idle land, rented offices, and later, the slam-dunk unified field theory trophy, Aztec gold.

My score is precisely 7.43% year-to-time net asset gain, the interim high for 2002, and given the momentum of markets and nature of psychology, the equation of fear and balance of greed, I believe 8% is achievable by December 31st, 2002.

Message 18215177

30% in 1999 is just so so, but 8% in 2002 is simply so excellent, maybe even just short of outstanding. The world is such a relative, give-and-take kind of a place, and recently more take than give.

I begin to feel uncomfortable. Matters are spinning too right, the trades seemingly too obvious, the gains too natural, the rewards too rich, and the path of least resistance too suspiciously so.

But, wait, I look behind me and do not see any maurice coming my way yet. Thus assured, I stay the lonely course;0)

We must figure out what to do for 2003 within the next few weeks. While I do not believe that markets, as does the weather, recognize calendar demarcation, I do believe in regularly reviewing actions, do-nothings, current results and latent risks.

Between Pezz, you and myself, we cover a good spectrum of time horizon.

Pezz trades on the expectation of 20% gains in days or weeks.

You wait on the hope of 2,000% gains in a lifetime.

I wander in and out of positions on wish for 100% gains in 5 years.

We will most likely not receive what we expect, nor get what we deserve. In the mean time we must take what we can get, from others, most likely;0)

BTW, moving from subject of negative yields and positive gains, on the matter of zero-sums games, the world economy grows at 2-3% per annum, therefore, in my view, when we gain more than that, we took something from somebody somewhere, most likely against their expectation, and definitely against their wish.>>



To: pezz who wrote (43896)12/29/2003 4:35:38 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hello Pezz, Today’s Report – HK Front:

I unloaded much of my China shares on the market.

I am not sure exactly why, although I can make a lot of excuses based on fundamentals (SARS, Taiwan, N.Korea, China breaking economy, etc). Since they are just excuses, I will not bother. The thing about excuses is that it is better to use them before others do.

I am not able to decipher the technical to make any sense, and so I will not try.

I guess I am just feeling uncomfortable even though I believe the fundamental values of the shares are still good (P/E, dividend).

I simply am happy with my latest refill on China profit, and I do not wish to be holding these shares while I abscond into the sunny hemisphere for vacation.

I doubt I will enjoy my vacation much if I have to stay glued to the CNBC channel and trying to stay up during happy napping hour because I need to save my dollops from trials by fire. We are playing with real moolah, and not chestnuts ;0)

I also do not wish to be holding these shares through the usually slap-happy first quarter since 2004 first quarter may not turn out to be a usual one.

And, I guess another reason is I do not want to be holding these chips again until, oh, say sometime during the summer?

Here is the tally:

I got away from my dollop of China Shipping finance.yahoo.com at HKD 5.85/shr, satisfied with a gain 18% 41 days;

I divested People’s Food finance.yahoo.com at HKD 5.15/shr, recognizing a loss of 1% over 41 days;

I unloaded my three dollops of Petro China finance.yahoo.com at HKD 3.95/shr, accumulated at an average cost of HKD 3.24/shr, taking home a gain of 21.9% via an weighted average holding period of 20 days;

I got rid of the last dollop of my PICC Property & Casualty finance.yahoo.com at HKD 3.25/shr, claiming a profit of 32.6% since this time Message 19470582 <<November 5th, 2003>>;

I sold my three dollops of Sinopec finance.yahoo.com at HKD 2.95/shr, accumulated at an average cost of HKD 2.64/shr, claiming a gain of 11.7% over weighted holding period of 20 days;

I flipped my three dollops of Yanzhou Coal finance.yahoo.com at HKD 7.70/shr, absconding with a gain of 10.8% over a weighted average holding period of 20 days.

I am still holding three dollops of CNOOC finance.yahoo.com and a dollop of China Life finance.yahoo.com . I imagine these will be put up for sale over the next few days.

Chugs, Jay

Buy References:
Message 19512676
November 18th, 2003
China Shipping finance.yahoo.com at HKD 4.95
CNOOC finance.yahoo.com at HKD 15.00
People’s Food finance.yahoo.com at HKD 5.20
Petro China finance.yahoo.com at HKD 2.85
Sinopec finance.yahoo.com at HKD 2.375
Yangzhou Coal finance.yahoo.com at HKD 5.70

Message 19596639
December 14th, 2003
(a) China National Offshore finance.yahoo.com at HKD 17.25/shr
(b) Petro China finance.yahoo.com at HKD 3.475/shr
(c) Sinopec finance.yahoo.com at HKD 2.80/shr, and
(d) Yanzhou Coal finance.yahoo.com at HKD 7.95/shr

Message 19601413
December 16th, 2003
(a) China National Offshore finance.yahoo.com at HKD 15.9/shr
(b) Petro China finance.yahoo.com at HKD 3.40/shr
(c) Sinopec finance.yahoo.com at HKD 2.75/shr, and
(d) Yanzhou Coal finance.yahoo.com at HKD 7.20/shr