To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (2885 ) 12/25/2003 2:15:24 AM From: The Duke of URLĀ© Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3602 It ain't that difficult to understand. The bank says we will lend you money. Don't tell your shareholders. We will sell some new debt securities and stock for you, too. You secure our loan with assets that have priority over the bonds we sell, and stock that we can dump if anybody gets wise. We will tell the world that you have 6 Billion on deposit with us. What we wont tell them is that we own the money. Oh, and don't tell our depositors who we sell the stock to, Oh and one other thing, if something goes wrong it's like the introduction to Mission Impossible: As always Mr. Phelps, you can tell anyone you got money on deposit with us, but if something goes wrong, the bank will deny any connection to you, and by the way, yes you may use our scanner. :)) And who friggin' cares if we get caught, there are no more laws which allow people to sue us anyway, ....and we OWN the SEC, right, Kenney-Boy??? ======================================================== [repetitive clap trap deleted] Parmalat Shows Bank-Created Problems Still Ticking Wed December 24, 2003 04:16 PM ET By Chris Sanders NEW YORK (Reuters) - The collapse of the Italian food giant Parmalat may show that Wall Street banks have changed their practices after the Enron scandal, but may be doing little to unwind problems of the past. A Citigroup Inc. entity incorporated in Delaware called Buconero -- "Black Hole" when translated from the Italian -- invested in a Parmalat unit which then loaned money to other parts of the Italian firm. Parmalat, which filed for bankruptcy on Wednesday amid a scandal surrounding at least $8.7 billion that went missing from the books of Italy's eighth-largest industrial concern, disclosed an investment deal between one of its units and Buconero in November. Experts said banks remain under intense pressure to create complex financial vehicles for their customers or risk losing highly profitable clients to rivals. The Enron scandal... Yet Buconero remained a Citigroup subsidiary throughout 2002, according to a Citigroup SEC filing in March 2003. A Citigroup spokesman said that at the time of the financing Parmalat had a 6 billion euro balance sheet and was "a market leading company." The 117 million euro financing was "relatively small, appropriate and approved by both Parmalat's independent and statutory auditors with respect to the transaction's accounting treatment and disclosure," he said. Yet, the spokesman also said that based on a policy adopted last year, the bank "today we would only do this type of transaction if a client agreed to provide greater disclosure." The world's largest financial services company also said it regrets the use of the name Buconero. ...Former U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission enforcement lawyer Michael Malloy ..."Why do anything that may make Parmalat look elsewhere for its business," he said. ... ...Parmalat said the deal with Buconero was listed on its group balance sheet under "financial contributions deriving from a participation agreement drawn up by a consolidated company, in partnership with a third-party financier." ...it took up to 15 years for Japanese banks to get out of complex lending arrangements that were hurting their balance sheets. ... "The presence of Sarbanes-Oxley has given a false sense of control," Malloy said in reference to the main U.S. corporate reform law brought in post-Enron. [ed. note. All sorbaines oxley does is blame everybody but the real criminals] ... After Enron -- where banks settled charges they helped the now-bankrupt energy trader manipulate its finances -- financial institutions including Citigroup set up internal committees to review each deal to ensure it will not put the firm's money or reputation at risk. [ed. note. unless of course the bank was making money and the board figured it could lie its way out]news.bbc.co.uk