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To: Ish who wrote (122148)	12/26/2003 5:32:47 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks, it is an interesting tale. Actually, evasion of constraints of the Treaty had begun before Hitler came to power, so he did not have to operate in a vacuum.......

To: Ish who wrote (122148)	12/26/2003 7:05:45 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Krupp engineers and those from Holt and Best [both of Alta California] co-operated a lot in the development of track machines .... i think it was Holt who brought over a machine, or the designs, of an early german tractor that had been legitimately designed circa 1908 for cultivation of Niedersachsen and prussian heavy lowlands .... they improved on it, and it became a model for early wwi tank track designs .... then Krupp brought over about 1921 several models of Holt and Best, the basic undercarriage design of one became standard in all track dozers until now, with a few variations ... what Krupp managed to do was place different qualities of steel in appropriate places, to combine the toughness of one portion of a part with wear resistance on another facet of it, this was difficult in early machining .... somewhere on the net there is a great page on this, on an old-tractor aficionado's site ..... you had or have a track dozer, don't you Ish? ... me too, my favourite machine, a great stress reliever eh -g- Holt and Best were later incorporated into the Caterpillar company, for those who don't know .... the story of machinery engineering parallels a lot of twentieth century bellicosity, but it had its peaceful productive side too .... Krupp really did make ag tractors too, however they were building state of the art tanks in secret as early as 1921