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To: GST who wrote (122165)	12/26/2003 7:25:19 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Germany did not become the world's strongest scientific and industrial power in three years under Hitler -- the capability was already there So f--king what, GST? If the argument we were making was that Saddam Hussein was about to conquer America, you would have a point in saying that Iraq never had the underlying industrial, military or scientific power to become a superpower or to present a conventional military threat against the US. But we never said that. We said that Iraq had the strongest industrial, military and scientific power in the Arab world, sufficient to conquer Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States and thus control 2/3rds of the world's proven oil reserves. And to wage assymetrical warfare - which does not require superpower status - against the USA via proxy agents. So it is your argument that is irrelevant.

To: GST who wrote (122165)	12/27/2003 5:21:54 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

As I understand it, from rooting around the Internet, the United States was always the pre-eminent industrial power. Germany was number two. However, the Soviet Union was gaining on it, having grown at a much faster pace than Germany during the '30s, and any coalition of industrial powers, such as Britain and France, would have exceeded German output. So yes, Germany was very strong in industrial power, but no, it was not as powerful as you are saying, and its economic situation, which has a lot to do with the utilization of capacity, remained precarious. Indeed, it was American capital that largely kept the Weimar Republic afloat, and by the end of the '30s, the Reich was nearly bankrupt.........