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To: calgal who wrote (39659)12/26/2003 11:17:06 PM
From: calgal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
Are we supposed to laugh?
Dean Not Ready to Pronounce Bin Laden Guilty
URL:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106758,00.html

Friday, December 26, 2003

CONCORD, N.H. — Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean (search) says it's premature to recommend what penalty Usama bin Laden (search) should face before he's been legally determined to be guilty of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Asked whether bin Laden should be tried in the United States and put to death, Dean told The Concord Monitor, "I still have this old-fashioned notion that even with people like Usama, who is very likely to be found guilty, we should do our best not to, in positions of executive power, not to prejudge jury trials."

In an interview with the New Hampshire newspaper for Friday editions, Dean added: "I'm sure that is the correct sentiment of most Americans, but I do think if you're running for president, or if you are president, it's best to say that the full range of penalties should be available. But it's not so great to prejudge the judicial system."

Calling Iraq "probably the best place" for Saddam Hussein to be tried, Dean said he is willing "to be flexible about that because I don't think it's essential to the security interests of the United States."

Dean said he plans to keep reminding Democrats that he, unlike his major rivals for the nomination, opposed the Iraq war, in spite of polls showing the vast majority of the American public supporting the invasion at the time.

Asked how he would persuade people who were not opposed to the war to vote for him instead of President Bush (search), Dean responded, "By going after him on terrorism, where he's really weak."

Dean questioned whether the Bush administration's use of force against Iraq had anything to do with Libya's announcement that it will scrap its programs for weapons of mass destruction.



To: calgal who wrote (39659)12/26/2003 11:17:15 PM
From: calgal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
Really Genuine......?
:)

!!!!!

Dean touts a 'Jesus strategy'

From combined dispatches
MANCHESTER, N.H. — Howard B. Dean, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination who had said little about the role of religion in politics, yesterday told the Boston Globe that he is a committed follower of Jesus Christ and suggested that this would be a winning campaign issue.
Mr. Dean said he will start mentioning God and Christ as the campaign moves into the South. After the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 19 and the New Hampshire primary a week later, South Carolina and five other states — Oklahoma, Arizona, Delaware, Missouri and New Mexico — will hold primaries on Feb. 3. The South Carolina primary, the first test in the Deep South where history suggests that the Democratic candidate must perform well if he is to win the presidency, is particularly important.
The 55-year-old physician, who is a member of the Congregationalist Church, said he does not attend church often, but prays daily. His wife is Jewish, and their two children adopted the Jewish faith.
Jesus is an important influence in his life, he told the Globe interviewer, and he probably will talk to voters about how Jesus has served as a "model" for him.
"Christ was someone who sought out people who were disenfranchised, people who were left behind," he said. "He fought against self-righteousness of people who had everything. ... He was a person who set an extraordinary example that has lasted 2,000 years."
An ABC/Washington Post poll released this week showed that 46 percent of Southerners say a president should rely on his religious beliefs in making policy decisions, compared with 28 percent in the East and 40 percent in the rest of the nation.
The Globe reported that Mr. Dean has talked of his religious beliefs to one black congregation in South Carolina, where about half of the expected primary votes will be cast by blacks.
"In a rhythmic tone notably different from his usual stampede through policy points," the newspaper reported, the former Vermont governor said: "In this house of the Lord, we know that the power rests in God's hands and in Jesus' hands for helping us. But the power also is on this, God's earth. Remember Jesus said, 'Render unto God those things that are God's but unto Caesar those things that are Caesar's.' "
Mr. Dean continued: "In this political season, there is also other power. Not as important or as strong as the power of Jesus, but it's important power in the world of politics and the world of Caesar."
Mr. Dean's mother is a Roman Catholic, and he was raised in the Episcopal faith like his father, a warden in the Episcopal church that the family attended near their weekend home in East Hampton, N.Y. The son attended St. George's, a boarding school in Newport, R.I., where he went to church "literally every day and twice on Sunday."
"My father used to tell us how much strength he got from religion," he told the Globe, "but we didn't have Bible readings. There are traditions where people do that. We didn't. People in the Northeast don't talk about their religion. It's a very personal, private matter, and that's the tradition I was brought up in."
Mr. Dean's remarkably candid discussion of his religious faith, and the expected impact of a candidate's faith in Southern primaries, recalled his remarks earlier in the campaign that a Democratic candidate must campaign for the votes of Southerners "with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks."
He was harshly criticized for the remarks, which were interpreted in some quarters as endorsing the Confederate flag, and two days later, he apologized.
Other Democratic candidates have talked of their religious faith on the stump. Rep. Richard A. Gephardt, a Southern Baptist, has described the recovery of his son from a serious illness as "a gift of God." Sen. Joe Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew who will not campaign on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath, scolded his rivals for forgetting "that faith was central to our founding and remains central to our national purposes." The Rev. Al Sharpton, who has pulled into a tie for second place in one South Carolina public-opinion poll, is an ordained Pentecostal minister and often campaigns in pulpits.



To: calgal who wrote (39659)12/27/2003 11:27:21 PM
From: sandintoes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
A rather good book by Richard Miniter, "Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror," irrefragably makes the case America did not have to await Osama bin Laden's slaughter to take on the terrorists.

I'll have to read that!