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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (122197)12/27/2003 3:56:01 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
'Speer says in his Inside biography much of the same, that while Germany had massive capacity it still hadn't been brought up to full wartime footing by the late 30s, and to an extent never was until it had been degraded substantially by allied bombing

Actually, the last part is false.. Nazi Germany was actually producting more armaments in 1944-45 than at any time prior in the war..
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Your statement, in its limited truth of doubtful utility, does not render false my statement of what Speer said, and probably not Speer's statement either .... they reached peak production of some arms in '44-'45, and not of others .... in any case, what Speer was on about was the failure to admit to the german people the necessity of putting all available capacity on war footing, they did not do this because there was fear of mutiny in the ranks, probably justified fear as they would be seen to be breaking their promises of greater glory for the Volk through easy victory .... so there were still considerable luxuries available, those that didn't need to be imported anyway, and a fair bit of free time for those not yet draughted, preparations were being made for post-war celebrations of 1950 [Speer would know about this, he was the architect in charge, prior to being ministre of armaments], new buildings with no military use were going up all over .... really Germany was never put on full and complete war footing, they went straight from an easy-war sham to defeat mode .... although in phrasing it like that i might be stretching Speer's point a tich ..... but the thing is, 'capacity' is not a constant, it changes according to what input it gets, while class of output changes as well, according to demands made upon it, or in this case commands ..... and there was silly armament stuff too, for one thing Goering would not permit fighter production to be reduced by twenty per cent in order to manufacture sufficient spare engines and parts to keep far more planes in the air than would be represented by that twenty per cent, so there would be whole lines of them parked at fields on the russian front, unserviceable due to lack of some minor part ..... they could not rob from one machine to another in most cases, as the same parts wore out or broke

Pretty quick with the charges of falsehood though, arencha .... gee you people are up late, Nadine's got another production out too, don't know if i have the energy .... yeah i knew you'd like the Ms April line, it was a pretty stupid thing to say to some tinpot dictator with guns up the ying-yang, wasn't it .... and we'll likely have to continue in disagreement on your contention of how all world problems are at core caused by the french, i dunno about that, remain sceptical that it's possible, what with so many other sorts out there doing stuff, and all ... well, better save some typing for Nadine, let me just stress this -

It is a mistake to applaud your nation down a path of rejecting international cooperation and unilaterally invading other nations .... on this course there be monsters, and they won't all have french accents

'Finding it difficult to re-direct Bush to a wider, more internationalist orientation, these leaders are taking advantage of what they see as an opportunity to blunt and eventually change the direction of U.S. foreign policy. They appear to have adopted three ways to do it.' - #reply-19630622