To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8072 ) 12/27/2003 1:16:23 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965 Is it true, as it appears to be, that you simply don't know what the heck you are talking about? Here, son, learn something: Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential by James Moore (Author), James C. Moore, Wayne Slater amazon.com Boy Genius: Karl Rove, the Brains Behind the Remarkable Political Triumph of George W. Bush by Lou Dubose, Jan Reid, Carl M. Cannon amazon.com If you can read these and fail to reach the conclusion that Rove is a criminal then you have a failed moral code that you operate under. You do have a moral code, don't you? I've seen no evidence of it to date on SI. Perhaps you could elucidate this seeming gap in your personality for us? You know... things like ethics, morals, laws. Stuff that George Bush seems to have ruthlessly shredded on the way to creating his very own personal dictatorship. Or perhaps you've studied the wrong codes? Ones that offer you special advatages? calvin.edu Be sure to read Joe Goebbels "The New Year 1934" speech. Try to tell me the White House isn't imitating this tome: Goebbels: "The Reich is once more strong and powerful, the people more united and firm than ever before, led by a strong hand who is dealing with the problems we face. Where once there was hopelessness and despair, today a whole nation is filled with faithful devotion." Bush: "Bring it on.", "Mission Accomplished." Goebbels: A year of unprecedented victories and triumphs is behind us. What twelve months ago seemed the product of an overactive imagination has become reality. The flags of national renewal fly over the Reich, and a revolution of vast extent has captured the German people and given them back their true nature. Bush: "We're bringing democracy to Iraq." -- recent news reports notwithstanding regarding Task Force 121, intimidation campaigns, masked terrorists working for "our" side, midnight raids on innocent women and children, failure to remedy infrastructure deficiencies, barbed wire surrounding entire villages, etc. Goebbels: "What an astonishing collection of significant political, cultural and economic events mark this year of German awakening! It finally destroyed the Marxist nonsense that had tortured the German people for six decades, condemning them to political impotence." Paul Bremer: "We got him!" Goebbels: "Twelve months ago the parties carried on their nonsense in the parliaments, government crisis followed crisis, and the fate of the Reich was determined by special interests that used the holy idea of Germany only for their party's benefit. This contemptible parliamentarianism, whose only Christmas gift to the people was the collapse of a cabinet, is gone. The German people overwhelmingly have affirmed one man and one idea. A movement fully aware of its responsibility governs the Reich. The people themselves, however, could not support the new regime any more strongly than they do." Ari Fleisher: "In a post-Sept. 11 world, everyone should be careful about what they say and how they say it". Goebbels: "We give our respectful greeting to the General Field Marshall and Reich President, who in the past year was once more the loyal Ekkehard of his people. May fate preserve him for us for many years to come. We give our loyalty and eternal allegiance to the Führer, who never wavering bore the flag through storms and dangers. May he stay strong and healthy, and complete his work." Theodore Roosevelt: "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."