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To: PROLIFE who wrote (516482)	12/28/2003 10:55:27 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

GE 34:13-29 GE 6:11-17 GE 19:26 EX 2:12 EX 9:22-25 EX 12:29 EX 17:13 EX 32:27-29 EX 21:20-21 LE 26:7-8 Who wrought all that death and destruction anyway?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (516482)	1/4/2004 8:31:27 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

As I say, of the four mainstream gospel writers, Luke, Mark, Matthew and John, only John claims that Jesus is god (his gospel is also known as the "I am" gospel, "I am the life, I am the salvation, I am the ....). Omitted or determined heretical by 250AD are the many other numerous gospels that did not share John's view that salvation could be had only through Jesus. Recall that John was written 90 to 100 AD, whereas Mark was written before 50 AD. John was trying to shape the faith and disputing the claims of other Jesus religious writers. ie his portrayal of the beliefs of the doubting Thomas, who most scholars believe was Jesus's most "beloved" disciple, is the disciple who claims in his gospel that Jesus said the divine light that shines within Him shines within us all. John disputes this notion (Polycarp, who is a student or disciple of John, influenced his own disciple Irenaeus enough that he [Iranaeus the first big booster of John's beliefs] starts calling Thomas believers heretics) saying the divine light can only shine if you believe in Jesus. But clearly, according to Thomas's Gospel, Jesus's beliefs were modified by late-comers such as the writer of John's gospel. Your faith in Jesus and what he said and believed, I am afraid, rests on an extensively edited version of the whole truth. A version edited and redacted to help create a single belief system in Jesus, something Jesus never intended.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (516482)	1/5/2004 6:29:33 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

"<MARK>Mark 4:39 He(Jesus) got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves "Quiet! Be still!" Then the wind died down and it was completely calm. Dare Mark think that anyone but God commands the elements?" Miracle worker perhaps, not god. "<MATTHEW>Matthew 14:33 Then those who were in the boat worshiped him,(Jesus) Dare Matthew, a Jew, say that anyone but God would be worshipped?" Jewish people have a very very long history of worshipping many messiahs. One that was worshipped died recently in New York. In any case, worshipping someone doesn't make them god. Some of you guys seem to worship George Bush Jr., what does that make him? "LUKE>Luke 5: 20-21 When Jesus saw their faith, he said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven." The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?" Jesus speaking as recorded by Luke. As a Jew, Luke also knew the answer to that question." Hey, prolife, I forgive your sins too, does that make me God? Sorry, Pro, again, only John, says Jesus is God, that Jesus is your salvation. Other gospel writers disagree with that view. But John was the last to write, so his gospel has the final say, the other writers are dead and of course are unable to respond. What you read in the bible is edited and heavily redacted. Not all of Jesus's sayings makes it into your bible, you should do a bit of research to learn the truth.