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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (79846)	12/29/2003 7:17:08 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

So, where do laws come from? In democratic societies they come from legislatures. They are sometimes passed quickly in the heat of passion; sometimes they are the result of long deliberations. The conflicting desires of different people and groups of people enter into them. Compromises get made. In a bill that is sure to pass, all kinds or unrelated pet projects will be shoved in. They generally get passes to an executive who must approve them. They then get interpreted and reinterpreted and counterinterpreted by courts as time goes on. But there is no mysticism, no hand of a wise and rational God in this. If you doubt this, take a look at the tax code. www4.law.cornell.edu The making of law is as human a process as exists- -with all that implies, good and bad. And breaking the wrong laws can result in one being sent to find out if their guess about the existence of a god is right or not.

To: one_less who wrote (79846)	12/29/2003 7:22:18 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

The difference is that believers hold them selves personally responsible whether the govt laws or societal traditions approve or not. You misunderstand my point. It is that you and I have identical accountability systems. There are several of them. They are the same. Whether the individual believes or not, the systems are the same. I was not suggesting that the loosest of them suffices. All three are at work together, each having different penalties. I only mentioned three accountability mechanisms. I did not mention self regulation because, while we all also use that, it isn't a real accountability system. Accountability requires oversight by another entity. Responsibility may be what you have in mind. Not accountability.