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To: MSI who wrote (22101)	12/30/2003 1:41:37 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793656

"Any amount of detail is refuted by the facts, there was no imminent threat, nor any reason other than political and profiteering to make the invasion and create that disaster." Speaking of reading closely & refuting facts..... President Delivers "State of the Union"<font size=4> ...."Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.<font size=3> Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."..... whitehouse.gov The 'imminence' spin Message 19469570 A Brief History of The Imminent Threat Canard Message 19469610 Sorting out the "imminent threat" debate Message 19508187 The Times Misfires (Again) on Bush's "Imminent Threat" Message 19612762

To: MSI who wrote (22101)	12/30/2003 5:03:14 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793656

CNC Exclusive Interview CNC: We're here with Jeff Kaiser, Chairperson of the Alliance For Global Anti-globalization and Marwan El Awad, Senior Martyr Trainer For McJihad. So Mr. El Awad, you and Jeff come from such diverse backgrounds. How is it that you and Jeff and and your respective organizations have decided to partner together for peace? MEA: Yes, it is quite amazing and no one was more surprized than myself. McJihad was operating a booth at the university Celebrate Diversity Day when, Allah be praised, I saw Jeff and the AGAG group bearing a banner with "Islam Means Peace" inscribed upon it. JK: So we got to talking and found that we had more in common than not. We both seek Justice from oppression. Greedy Multinational Corporation or Zionists Accursed Of God; same thing. Semantics really. MEA: We truly wanted the... JK: ...Same things! MEA: ...Same things! [laughter] CNC: Mr Kaiser, what does this mean for your two groups? JK: Well we sticking to the traditional stuff, you know, demonstrations, rallys and a little bit of looting. But the benefit will come from learning from each other. For example, we have applied for funding from Hizbollah. And Marwan is learning how to use paper mache and pantomime to simulate blowing up in a crowded shopping district. CNC: Mr. El Awad, I understand that your group is committed to the complete destruction of the "Crusader and the Jew." Does being allied with an American group create any friction? MEA: Well... JK: [interrupting] Now wait, my family is "Christian" and a bunch of hypocrites. They blindly support for America's policies and corporate greed. When Marwan says "Crusader," he is really speaking against these types. MEA: Actually Jeff, it is all Christians. JK: That's cool. I'm against organized religion. MEA: Islam is an organized religion. JK: [long pause] OK. I am just against Christians. CNC: Last question for you Mr. Kaiser; the war in Afghanistan served to end the Taliban rule and the extreme oppression of women. In AGAG's manifesto, women are considered an "oppressed group" and "to be liberated at all costs." Do you support the United States' action in Afghanistan? JK: The United States launched an illegal war for dominance in the region and to secure an oil-pipeline. American bombers killed more than 50,000 women... The Taliban was supported by the U.S... Women were actually imprisoned by the arrival of American troops [begins to foam at mouth] They don't care about women, so it is irrelevant. CNC: Mr. El Awad, you have the last word. MEA: We don't care about women either. CNC: Thank you gentlemen. crankyneocon.com