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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jttmab who wrote (24270)	12/30/2003 1:53:28 PM
From: bearshark	Respond to of 93284

>>>The Hart-Rudman report didn't come up with any thing new. All it did was publish what some one already knew, including the counter measures.<<< Washington can focus on a report and its conclusions and recommendations. Additionally, it had Warren Rudman behind it as a spokesperson. It had the potential of getting things started and a House Committee did hold a hearing on the report in March 2001. That is the strength of the report. However, there was no push from the administration. So, it withered and died. >>>Classic government [and private sector] response to security issues. We'll wait until it happens.<<< I agree. If you go back and look At Mr. Clinton's Policy Directives 61 or 62 (or thereabouts I think), you will see that he took some action against cyber-terrorism. Although that too was mentioned in the Hart-Rudman report version that he received, the impetus for the action was an actual cyber-attack. We keep learning by our mistakes--unfortunately.

To: jttmab who wrote (24270)	12/30/2003 5:24:08 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

That would not only decimate the beef industry, it would also thoroughly and effectively destroy the public's trust in the safety of the food supply. Not necessarily. Hoof and mouth disease is not transmissible to humans. So there would be no major panic among the public. Yesterday, I checked with the butchers at my local supermarket. They indicated to me that there has been little or no commentary from the public or change in consumption patterns of beef since the BSE announcement. It seems that people hereabouts are pretty sanguine about the situation. I know I don't intend to change my longstanding habit, which is to use only solid muscle selections such as steaks and roasts of beef. When I heard that "ground beef" available in most supermarkets could contain portions of up to 1,000 animals in a package, I simply refused to play Russian roulette with such a preposterous scheme.

To: jttmab who wrote (24270)	12/30/2003 10:53:51 PM
From: nz_q	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 93284

GW Bush Lies About WMD an Impeachable Offense? Any attorneys in the forum to shed some more light on this? John Dean, former Nixon counsel, has penned an article asking the question and draws parallels to the Nixon impeachment: To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security intelligence data, if proven, could be "a high crime" under the Constitution's impeachment clause. It would also be a violation of federal criminal law, including the broad federal anti-conspiracy statute, which renders it a felony "to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose." It's important to recall that when Richard Nixon resigned, he was about to be impeached by the House of Representatives for misusing the CIA and FBI. After Watergate, all presidents are on notice that manipulating or misusing any agency of the executive branch improperly is a serious abuse of presidential power. Nixon claimed that his misuses of the federal agencies for his political purposes were in the interest of national security. The same kind of thinking might lead a President to manipulate and misuse national security agencies or their intelligence to create a phony reason to lead the nation into a politically desirable war. Let us hope that is not the case. azplace.net also take a look at the "imminent threat" bs to get congress signed okay on Iraq invasion. President still needed approval in writing. Message 19641112