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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (80069)	1/2/2004 12:37:09 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"What do you do if someone loses their religious belief? Shoot them?" I have nothing to do with that. What do you mean by "loses" in the first place? If someone believes something they can't lose it. Some one can give their allegience or support to something that they later reject. Children can grow up loyal to a regime that they later learn to be corrupt. "Is Islam right when calls for death for Muslims who become atheists or convert to other religions?" Have you stopped beating your wife yet? You seem to always be beating the bush for a hidden agenda laz. There isn't one. I have absolutely no interest in converting you to anything. I am simply presenting a rational basis for belief as you requested.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (80069)	1/4/2004 12:23:04 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

BUT let's assume it's true. What do you do if someone loses their religious belief? Shoot them? Is Islam right when calls for death for Muslims who become atheists or convert to other religions? You can only guess what they wanted to do with a leading Egyptian Feminist, Dr. Al-Sa'dawi , when she began calling for an amendement to Egypt's constitution to remove Islam as the one official religion of that country : Message 19568475 'The Egyptian Constitution Should be Amended to Remove Islam as the Official Religion' Al-Sa'dawi called for amending the Egyptian constitution and eliminating the article that declares Islam to be the official state religion, "because we have among us Copts, and because religion is a matter between man and God and no one has the right to impose his faith, his God and his rituals on others. Therefore, I am one of the die-hard opponents of a religious state, because our God should not be involved in politics in any fashion. "However, the Copts lived happily and in paramount fairness under the wings of Islam," commented the interviewer. Al-Sa'dawi responded: "We are the sons of one homeland, and we are partners in it, so that no one has to live 'under the wings' of anyone else." As for the "Islamic culture," Al-Sa'dawi said that it was "part of a general culture based on Christianity, Judaism, and the Pharaoh's heritage. There is no pure culture, but an intertwined relationship among the cultures. I am against differentiating between a Western culture and an Eastern culture. We live in one culture, which is a culture of capitalism, patriarchy, classes, and inferiority that, regretfully, also uses religion as a tool for domination." what if someone wanted to be a just another simple & plain nature lover , humanist , or earth loving pantheist? ;) (if you guessed crucify , execute , or having her limbs removed , you guessed correctly...it seems omnipotent God must have followers first imposing their will before his may be done . Is this really omnipotence? )