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To: GST who wrote (122704)1/3/2004 3:39:58 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 281500
 
Are you a real person or just a database of vapid cliches?



To: GST who wrote (122704)1/3/2004 3:46:36 PM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 281500
 
This is a slogan and not information or description:

For every one we kill ten more will take their place. Nor is hatred of America dead.

That you say it a lot gives it no truth values.

Terrorist movements which suffer continuous defeat eventually do die away due to deaths, and exhaustion and discouragement of the survivors. Military action on its own is not usually sufficient but when accompanied by genuine political defeat they can be ultimately destroyed.

There are things that have died: Any prospect for peace in the middle east and the rule of law.

The Iraqis had no peace, nor rule of law, before the US arrived. They had terror and a dictator's caprice. But now their courts are working quite earnestly, and apparently honestly, and terror is abating.

There is much still to be done by the US and Iraqis but things are much better for them than during Saddam's reign of terror. Who, by the way, will be tried by Iraqis.



To: GST who wrote (122704)1/3/2004 3:49:31 PM
From: aladin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
GST,

<They're dead.> No they are not. For every one we kill ten more will take their place. Nor is hatred of America dead. There are things that have died: Any prospect for peace in the middle east and the rule of law.

Then all is already lost. You should surrender or something, got burka?

The reality is that we attack and they die. If we wait for them to attack and respond with lawyers - we die.

Talking did not defeat communism or fascism or Nazism or the Militarists in Japan. Killing them did that. Its not pretty, but retreating is not an option - Reagan and Clinton did that - and we were rewarded with 9/11.

John



To: GST who wrote (122704)1/3/2004 5:19:53 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
((<They're dead.> No they are not. For every one we kill ten more will take their place.))

Any proof on that?



To: GST who wrote (122704)1/3/2004 5:45:48 PM
From: teevee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
There are things that have died: Any prospect for peace in the middle east and the rule of law.

The rule of law is not dead. If you want respect for "the law", it must be enforced. Unfortunately, part of the cost of enforcing the law must be paid with the blood of police officers and soldiers-they are the heroes (and fallen heroes) who make so much possible that so many take for granted.