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To: hueyone who wrote (176390)	1/3/2004 2:43:43 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

I mean run the KDE graphical user interface desktop and all the open office apps with no windows. Or, whatever Novell puts together as the desktop offering, open source has all these alternatives that do the same thing which is the whole problem. Like for desktop there is a KDE vs. Gnome battle. Somebody needs to decide what the standard is and I am looking for Novell to do a little of that. SuSE is all 64. Here is a site about desktop linux desktoplinux.com Both HP high end machines are the athlon 64 desktop chip, yes it is out but they configure it with WinXP 32 bits. So the extra bits are wasted unless you start using linux. shopping.hp.com

To: hueyone who wrote (176390)	1/4/2004 8:32:54 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Re: Are the Athlon 64 bit chips for desktop already out? Best Buy sells Athlon 64 systems from HP (order at Kiosk) and eMachines (stocked in the stores). Sears sells Athlon 64 systems from Northgate (order on-line and pick up in the store). Lots of on-line vendors sell them, too many to list here. Some Athlon 64 notebooks are also available. Intel will be announcing a clone of the Athlon 64 some time during the year, so for anyone who prefers Intel, they can just wait for their clone of AMD's chip to become available (probably not for 6 months to a year after the announcement, so it will be a wait. Keep in mind the time between when they announced they would follow AMD's move to DDR and the time DDR systems from Intel became readily available).