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To: BubbaFred who wrote (44260)	1/4/2004 4:22:12 PM
From: brian h	Respond to of 74559

BubbaFred, I am impressed. You know more about Chinese than a self claimed Chinese. Seriously! (ng) I am humble under this one. "He(she) who knows, doesn't talk. He(she) who doesn't know, talks too much." BH

To: BubbaFred who wrote (44260)	1/4/2004 6:02:15 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

In terms of percentage, converted Chinese Christians are less than 1%. So they definitely CANNOT represent Chinese! Yu Huang Da Di "Jade Emperor" of Chinese mythology is one of the most important deities of folk religion and religious Taoism. And few people in cities nowadays still believe in them. If you don't believe, go do some research yourself<g> pantheon.org pantheon.org

To: BubbaFred who wrote (44260)	1/4/2004 9:28:16 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

Many Chinese have become Christians and they believe in God. Should we also remind Yiwu that people who had the audacity to suggest that the Earth rotated around the Sun were burned at the stake by Christians for blasphemy? This Christianity thing is one of the most overrated hype jobs of human existence.

To: BubbaFred who wrote (44260)	1/5/2004 3:00:22 AM
From: Seeker of Truth	Respond to of 74559

I remember a line from a popular Beijing opera "Lao Tien yeh(God) help me succeed". So the idea is there, But in ordinary life the concept of God has not been important in China. Local superstitions abound, demons to be propitiated but one's destiny basically depends on hard work. There is no legend of the creation of the universe by some omnipotent merciful entity that is heeded much. The very words for heaven and hell in Chinese sound like foreign imports, because these concepts occur so rarely to Chinese. Chinese almost overwhelmingly think that you can't do it by God's design, you have to work. Neither is there a second life to give you a second chance. It's now or never. That's different from India, as one of my Chinese friends enjoys pointing out. To "Go up onto(Dwell on) a mountain top and improve your spirit" i.e. lead the meditation life, was a small side show in the circus of Chinese life in past dynasties.