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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (6464)	1/5/2004 7:28:10 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 15987

Third Communique from 'Islamic Bayan Movement' Warns of an Upcoming Terrorist Attack: 'We Are Capable of Destroying an American City' January 5, 2004 No.14 memri.org Third Communique from 'Islamic Bayan Movement' Warns of an Upcoming Terrorist Attack: 'We Are Capable of Destroying an American City' A third communique attributed to the "Islamic Bayan Movement" threatening attacks in the U.S. was published on an Islamist Web site. The communique, titled "Very Urgent - From the Nation of Islam to the American People," was published at groups.yahoo.com . The new (third) communique, which was published today and is dated December 21, reads: "We are serious in this warning. The next few days will prove to you this warning was genuine... This lying government knows well that we are capable, right now, of destroying an American city in its entirety. We repeat, in its entirety..." [signed] The Islamic Bayan Movement Ansar Ibn Al-Qamar 27 of Shawwal, 1424 [December 21, 2003] Previous Communiques The two previous communiques had called on Muslims to leave New York, Los Angeles, and Washington, D.C. in order for their lives to be spared. The second opened: "All that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth glorifies Allah. He is the Mighty, the Wise. It is He who turned out the disbelievers from among the People of the Book from their homes at the time of the first banishment. You did not think that they would go forth and they thought that their fortresses would protect them against Allah. But Allah came upon them whence they did not expect and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their homes with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So take warning, O ye who possess understanding." The following are excerpts from the communiqué: "The sufferings of your Muslim brothers and of the Mujahideen around the world is no secret to you, our brothers. [They suffer] oppression, tyranny, imprisonment, murder, and banishment by the masters of oppressions and lies in the world, the American rulers, who think [of] themselves as good-doers. Allah is the witness that they write the end of America by their own hands... "Afghanistan and Iraq are not far away. Their sons there [i.e. U.S. soldiers] are frustrated and defeated and they ask 'why are we here?' Yes, they are the only ones who know the bitter truth. How would they not when they see every day dozens of casualties from among their friends, the soldiers who die and nobody, even not their stupid rulers, is sorry for them. Then they hear the lies and distortion their rulers [tell] their people and the peoples of the world regarding the number of their dead and heavy losses... "Our Muslim brothers in America, we ask you to immediately leave the following cities: Washington, DC, New York, and Los Angeles. We are serious in our warning. The next few days will prove to you the truth of this warning. To the oppressive rulers of America we say: expect our terms following the first strike of Allah's believing soldiers." The communiqué ends with another Koranic verse: "Fight them: Allah will punish them at your hands, and will humiliate them, and will help you to overcome them, and will relieve the minds of the believers."[Koran, Chapter 9, Verse 14].

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (6464)	1/6/2004 12:50:03 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 15987

Or how the Arab society which lies at the heart of Islamic culture permits the beheading of people for adultery, or chopping off the hands of those who steal. What is wrong with that. The Western nations abhor the US for the death penalty. How can a society collectively kill someone and say it is right but a single person is wrong in killing someone else. Isn't taking of life bad always. If we cannot produce life, then should we take away someone's life. Isn't your comment like "the pot calling the kettle black." Or how Arab men have the right to kill their spouse, or children, should they ever "dishonor" them... Is adultery and divorce which is much more prevalent in the US than the Arab countries any better? Hawk, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.