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To: LindyBill who wrote (23147)	1/6/2004 10:24:25 AM
From: gamesmistress	Respond to of 793665

The Presidential election as one big therapy session, huh? "Go on, say it, you'll feel better!" I agree with Sullivan in some ways - there are fundamental differences between the Bush supporters and Dean's - or any other Dem - and these should be aired and debated. However, I haven't noticed that the Dems have been repressing their feelings about "those benighted rednecks, dumb-ass preppies, preposterous puritans and economic snake oil-salesmen they believe are now running the country." They were frustrated because they were out of power, and the Dem leaders were not attacking Bush enough. Now that leader has emerged. (Sheesh, the lead-in to "that" song from The Producers just popped into my head....but I digress). Dean's only true conviction, though, is his anti-Bush attitude. That's the big motivation for him and his followers. Perhaps the battle is inevitable...there is no way to "agree to disagree" or find common ground on many issues. The true "cultural clash" Sullivan calls for could be a political Civil War. I only hope that when it's over, there is a clear victor. I am tired of this "You cheated! Do-over! Do-over!" crap.

To: LindyBill who wrote (23147)	1/6/2004 10:25:25 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793665

Bzzzt! Wrong -- Good article until this: "I think his belief in the supreme importance of government in people's lives deserves debate, and represents what the Democratic party is ultimately about. " That's what the GOP wants the argument to be. The biggest joke is that Bush's GOP is remotely interested in "smaller gov't". The rhetoric is all lies, while the actions are simply towards an all-powerful central gov't run by insiders. The "supreme importance of gov't in people's lives" belief is held by both parties, which is why both parties are dangerous. The primary difference is that the radicals controlling the GOP want to take over the world and the jellyfish Washington Dems want to whine while they go along with it. Dean is starting to hold both accountable, which is why the establishments of both parties wish he would go away, but don't know quite how to do that. Dean's argument is about who runs things, insiders or outsiders. The argument about the size of gov't isn't being made by Dems, except Dean, who at least raises the bar on expectations for budget-balancing. That said, it's dumb politically for Dean to remove the mid-class tax cuts.