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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (3197)1/8/2004 5:46:08 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3959
 
Chinu. These people are dangerous nut bars same as the muslim terrorists that the world is fighting against.

Wonder if some sort of religion plays a part with these people. I believe there are a couple of differences between these nut bars and the islam terrorists.

For one thing these guys likely want to remain alive so are likely somewhat less dangerous that than islam terrorist who want to die. No escape rout required no plans required not much left to track down just commit murder and die at the same time.

And there are a heck of a lot more islam terrorists than there are the nut bars from Texas, the islam brand are world wide and very very difficult to track down especially when they are protected by some foreign Government.

The USA brand IMO are a lot easier to track down as is evidenced by their capture in the USA.

These US nut bars are for the most part against the Government and not the average citizen who are targeted by islam terrorist. And as near as I can figure US citizens are targeted only because they are infidels.

Do you figure these nut bars from Texas are any threat to Muslims in the USA?



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (3197)1/8/2004 6:09:23 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 3959
 
Chinu. The article Texas " Terrorists." you directed to me I had read at a different web site .
In the article you directed me to was this statement...." "There is no question at all that had William Krar been a Muslim, this would have been announced from the steps of the justice department," Mr Potok said. The arrests were announced locally in Texas but received hardly any press coverage. ".....
guardian.co.uk

Ya suppose Guardian has some sort of agenda? :-)
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In the article I read which was from CBS this statement was absent.
Terror Plot In Texas?
DALLAS, Jan. 7, 2004
Homegrown Terrorist Plot?
William Krar and Judith Bruey (Photo: CBS)
cbsnews.com

In the wake of Sept. 11, there is concern that homegrown terrorists may be operating under the federal radar.

(CBS) In the East Texas hamlet of Noonday -- known for onions, not anarchy -- federal agents arrested a common-law couple last April. They were hiding a weapons cache, including, as CBS News Correspondent Bob McNamara reports, the makings of a sophisticated sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands.

William Krar, 62, with ties to white supremacist groups, pleaded guilty to possessing a chemical weapon and faces life in prison, while 54-year-old Judith Bruey could get five years. She pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons.

"They certainly had the capacity to be extremely dangerous," says U.S. assistant attorney Wes Rivers.

What agents found at a storage facility shocked them.

Photographs obtained by Dallas CBS station KTVT show illegal machine guns, boxes filled with 500,000 rounds of ammunition, homemade bombs, bomb-making instructions, antidotes for nerve agents and a Ku Klux Klan calling card.

All of it discovered after fake documents Krar mailed to an alleged New Jersey militia member were actually delivered to a New York address.

Teresa Staples, the storage owner, asks: "Why did they pick such a small storage facility? Why did they pick this town?"

Mysterious, too, are seized papers indicating plans for a covert operation.

One document titled "procedure" lists code words for meeting places in nine cities to be referred to as "zones." Other notes give code words and instructions on how to throw law enforcement off their trail.

In the wake of Sept. 11, there is concern that homegrown terrorists may be operating under the federal radar.

"It's scary when you look at the capabilities, look at the vulnerabilities of our society," says former FBI agent Danny Coulson. "We don't have to concern ourselves so much with only foreign terrorists, but we need to concern ourselves with domestic terrorists too, and these guys are dangerous."

Also unsettling is the fact that Krar and the others have refused to cooperate with authorities. If they did have a target for terror planned, they will likely take it to prison when they're sentenced next month.