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To: LindyBill who wrote (23576)1/9/2004 5:56:27 AM
From: Bris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793625
 
What happen to al those
chemicals suit and the injection kits that the coalition
found where the Iraqis having
a yard sale?



To: LindyBill who wrote (23576)1/9/2004 12:21:43 PM
From: Neeka  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793625
 
How defensible is the position of the Professors at war?

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Professors at war
Searching for dissent at the MLA
By Scott Jaschik, 1/4/2004

SAN DIEGO -- "Why are you headed to San Diego?" asked the man next to me on the plane. "I'm going to a meeting of English professors to hear what they have to say about the war with Iraq," I replied.

"English professors? On the war?" The man smirked. "I can't imagine what they would have to say."

Plenty, it turns out. This past week, about 8,000 professors and graduate students gathered here for the annual meeting of the Modern Language Association. Most came for job interviews, to catch up with old friends, and to attend some of the 763 panels of scholars. But among the panels on topics ranging from Hawthorne to Asian cinema to "The Aesthetics of Trash" were a surprising number of sessions dealing with the war in Iraq, terrorism, patriotism, and American foreign policy.

Not that there was much actual debate. In more than a dozen sessions on war-related topics, not a single speaker or audience member expressed support for the war in Iraq or in Afghanistan. The sneering air quotes were flying as speaker after speaker talked of "so-called terrorism," "the so-called homeland," "the so-called election of George Bush," and so forth.

The approach to the war was certainly wide-ranging -- from cultural studies to rhetoric to literature to pure political speechifying. In a session on "Shock and Awe," Graham Hammill of Notre Dame traced the ideas behind the initial bombing back to the Roman historian and orator Tacitus's idea of arcana imperii, which translates roughly as "mysteries of state." Like Roman emperors who used rhetoric to sway the populace, Hammill argued, the Shock and Awe campaign was a rhetorical gesture aimed at demonstrating US power as much as flattening Baghdad.

At a different panel, Cynthia Young of the University of Southern California spoke about how the White House uses Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell "to create a distorted multiracial mask on imperialism." "What does it mean," Young asked, "when imperialism comes wrapped in a black bow?"

Instead of Rice's August speech comparing the Iraqi "liberation" with the civil rights struggle, she recommended the writings of the African-American activist and writer Angela Davis, who once described her alienation from white Americans mourning the death of John F. Kennedy in 1963, but not the four young black girls who died in the Birmingham church bombing that same year.

Similar alienation is evident today, Young said, as the United States ignores the problems facing minority citizens while taking over countries where people do not look or worship like white Americans. "The new patriotism looks a lot like the old slash-and-burn imperialism," she declared.

Berkeley's Judith Butler, a superstar of gender and literary studies, drew a packed house with her analysis of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's bad grammar and slippery use of the term "sovereignty."

On a 2002 visit to Eritrea, in response to a question about the detention of dissidents there, Rumsfeld declared: "A country is a sovereign nation and they arrange themselves and deal with their problems in ways that they feel are appropriate to them." Beyond the noun-verb agreement problem with "country" and "they," Butler rapped Rummy's knuckles for redefining sovereignty -- in her analysis -- as "the suspension of legal rights."

When the United States is challenged over the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, American officials assert that US courts have no jurisdiction there because we are not sovereign there, Butler pointed out. "We are using sovereignty to declare war against the law," she said, to nods throughout her talk and loud applause after it.

The MLA's deliberative body, the Delegate Assembly, adopted by a landslide margin of 122-8 a resolution supporting "the right of its members to conduct critical analysis of war talk" despite government efforts to "shape language to legitimate aggression, misrepresent policies, conceal aims, stigmatize dissent, and block critical thought."

Sometimes that critical analysis was aimed at elements of the antiwar left. While denouncing the "particularly evil cabal" that runs the country, Barbara Foley of Rutgers urged leftist critics to look beyond the distraction of "Bush's cowboyism" to "the Leninist notion of intra-imperialist rivalry" to explain US-European competition for domination of the oil-rich Middle East.

Anthony Dawahare of California State University at Northridge said that "whoever wins the war in Iraq, the working class people in Iraq and in the US will be subject to a dictatorship of the rich." In an interview, he said that unless Howard Dean challenged capitalism itself, student activism on his behalf would be "a waste of time."

Not that everyone at the MLA was preoccupied with Marxist analysis. Ask many of the graduate students or younger scholars what's on their mind, and they talk about finding a job.

The closest public challenge to the prevailing geopolitical views at the MLA came when one professor asked a panel that had derided American responses to 9/11 and Iraq what a good response would have looked like. She didn't get much of an answer, left the session, and declined to elaborate on her question.

But a young professor of English who followed her out the door to congratulate her did offer some thoughts on politics at the MLA. Aaron Santesso of the University of Nevada at Reno described himself as being "on the left" and sympathetic with much of the criticism of the war in Iraq. But he said that the tenor of the discussion "drives me nuts." "A lot of people here don't want the rhetoric to just be a shrill echo of the right," he said.

Just a few years ago, he noted, the Taliban was regularly attacked at MLA meetings for their treatment of women and likened to the American religious right. Now, there is only talk of how the United States has taken away the rights of the Afghan people.

Santesso said he gains a good perspective from his students, most of whom he characterized as "libertarian conservatives." Most of the debate at the MLA, he said, "would completely alienate my students."

Plenty of English professors share his views, Santesso said. And some of his colleagues are even conservative. They just avoid coming to the MLA.

Scott Jaschik, former editor of The Chronicle of Higher Education, is a writer in Washington

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To: LindyBill who wrote (23576)1/9/2004 2:23:37 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793625
 
When you are dealing with someone with a history of not only developing, but using, WMDs, and who was giving up literally hundreds of billions of dollars to keep whatever it was he had, "worst-case" seems a very reasonable assumption to me.

Always a certain WTF element to Saddam's decision-making.



To: LindyBill who wrote (23576)1/9/2004 2:47:02 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 793625
 
(Jan 7th, 2004)
<font size=4>SECRETARY POWELL:<font size=3>
....The fact of the matter is, Iraq did have weapons of
mass destruction, and programs for weapons of mass
destruction...... That's a fact.....

....I am confident of what I presented last year. The
intelligence community is confident of the material they
gave me; I was representing them. It was information they
presented to the Congress. It was information they had
presented publicly, and they stand behind it. And this
game is still unfolding.....

.....I knew exactly the circumstances under which I was
presenting that speech to the UN on the 5th of February:
the whole world would be watching, and there would be
those who would applaud every word, and there would be
those who were going to be skeptical of every word.

That's why I took the time --- -- I took the time to go
out to the agency and sit down with the experts. And
anything that we did not feel was solid and multi-sourced,
we did not use in that speech......
state.gov
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The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace<font size=3> opposed the
war & has maintained that a policy of continued diplomacy
& appeasement remains the correct policy, despite the
history of increasing numbers of & the growing viciousness
of terrorist acts, including 9/11 (and in complete
disregard for OBL's declared global war against "the
infidels").
<font size=4>
And the most frequently made claim, "No WMD's have been
found!"<font size=3>...... What most of these folks all fail to
acknowledge is that Saddam did continue to improve his WMD
program capabilities in order to be able to quickly
produce mass quantities of WMD's the minute that
international scrutiny was gone (all in egregious
violation of the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement & all 17 UN
Resolutions).
<font size=4>
They also fail to mention.....
<font size=3>
....as to the weapons themselves, the amounts of CW we estimated Iraq to have had would fit in a backyard swimming pool or, at the upper limit of our estimate, in a small warehouse. A tremendously lethal arsenal of BW could of course be much smaller. And this in a country the size of California.....
odci.gov

""It is very likely that intelligence officials were pressured by senior administration officials to conform their threat assessments to pre-existing policies."
<font size=4>
US official stands by Iraq weapons report
07 January 2004 <font size=3>

....Critics have said the National Intelligence Estimate report was produced under pressure for a Bush administration that had made it clear it wanted to go to war against Iraq.

Cohen dismissed such criticism.

"Assertions, particularly that we had shaded our judgments to support an administration policy, were just nonsense," Cohen told ABC's Nightline.....

...."We did not, in any area, hype our judgments," Cohen said.

The intelligence estimates "never use the word imminent" and the judgments carried varying degrees of confidence, he said.....

stuff.co.nz
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False myths surround Iraq document<font size=3>
BY STUART A. COHEN

....<font size=4>Myth: Analysts were pressured to change judgments to meet the needs of the Bush administration.<font size=3> The judgments presented in the October 2002 NIE were based on data acquired and analyzed over 15 years. Our judgments were presented to three different administrations and routinely to six congressional committees. And the principal participants in the production of the NIE from across the entire U.S. intelligence community have sworn to Congress, under oath, that they were not pressured to change their views or to conform to administration positions.
<font size=4>
Myth: We buried divergent views and concealed uncertainties.<font size=3> Alternative views presented by intelligence officials at the Department of State, the Department of Energy and the U.S. Air Force were showcased in the NIE and were acknowledged in unclassified papers on the subject. Uncertainties were highlighted in the key judgments and throughout the text.....
miami.com
<font size=4>
Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction
Statement by Director of Central Intelligence George J. Tenet on the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction
<font size=3>
A great deal has been said and written about the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction. Much of this commentary has been misinformed, misleading, and just plain wrong. It is important to set the record straight. Let me make three points.

We stand by the judgments in the NIE.....

....We encourage dissent and reflect it in alternative views.

We stand behind the judgments of the NIE as well as our analyses on Iraq’s programs over the past decade.....

....The history of our judgments on Iraq’s weapons programs is clear and consistent.....

....Building upon ten years of analysis, intelligence
reporting, and inspections that had to fight through
Iraq’s aggressive denial and deception efforts, including
phony and incomplete data declarations to the UN and
programs explicitly designed with built-in cover stories,
the Intelligence Community prepared the NIE on Iraq’s
weapons of mass destruction. In it we judged that the
entire body of information over that ten years made clear
that Saddam had never abandoned his pursuit of weapons of
mass destruction.....

....We note yet again that uranium acquisition was not
part of this judgment. Despite all the focus in the media,
it was not one of the six elements upon which the judgment
was based. Why not? Because Iraq already had significant
quantities of uranium.....
<font size=4>
.....Biological Weapons
<font size=3>
All agencies of the Intelligence Community since 1995 have judged that Iraq retained biological weapons and that the BW program continued. In 1999 we assessed Iraq had revitalized its program. New intelligence acquired in 2000 provided compelling information about Iraq’s ongoing offensive BW activities, describing construction of mobile BW agent production plants—reportedly designed to evade detection—with the potential to turn out several hundred tons of unconcentrated BW agent per year. Thus, it was not a new story in 2002 when all agencies judged in the NIE that Iraq had biological weapons—that it had some lethal and incapacitating BW agents—and was capable of quickly producing and weaponizing a variety of such agents, including anthrax. We judged that most of the key aspects of Iraq’s offensive BW program were more advanced than before the Gulf war.
<font size=4>
Chemical Weapons
<font size=3>
As early as 1994, all agencies assessed that Iraq could begin limited production of chemical agents almost immediately after UN sanctions, inspections and monitoring efforts were ended. By 1997, the Intelligence Community judged that Iraq was protecting a breakout capability to produce more weapons and agent quickly. We further assessed in 1997, that within months Iraq could restart full-scale production of sarin and that pre-Desert Storm agent production levels—including production of VX—could be achieved in two to three years. And so it was not a surprising story when all agencies judged in the NIE in 2002 that Baghdad possessed chemical weapons, had begun renewed production of mustard, sarin, cyclosarin, and VX and probably had at least 100 metric tons (MT) and possibly as much as 500 MT of CW agents, much of it added in the last year.
<font size=4>
Delivery Systems.......
<font size=3>
Also by 1999 we had noted that according to multiple sources, Iraq was conducting a high-priority program to convert jet trainer aircraft to lethal UAVs, likely intended for delivering biological agents. Again, not a new story for the NIE to judge that Iraq maintained a small missile force and several development programs, including an UAV that could deliver a biological warfare agent.
<font size=4>
In sum, the NIE on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was the product of years of reporting and intelligence collection, analyzed by numerous experts in several different agencies. Our judgments have been consistent on this subject because the evidence has repeatedly pointed to continued Iraqi pursuit of WMD and efforts to conceal that pursuit from international scrutiny. Modifications of our judgments have reflected new evidence, much of which was acquired because of our intensified collection efforts. Thus, noting that Saddam had continued to pursue weapons of mass destruction was not startling. That he probably was hiding weapons was not new. That he would seek means to improve his capabilities using alternative-use cover stories would have been expected. That we would have alternative views is respected as part of the process.

We stand by the soundness and integrity of our process,
and no one outside the Intelligence Community told us what
to say or not to say in this Estimate.....
<font size=3>
odci.gov
<font size=4>
Strategic Choices, Intelligence Challenges

Denial and Deception
<font size=3>
....Every Iraqi program had “dual-use” built in that provided a plausible cover story: this was the game of hide-and-seek that Iraq had been playing with UN inspectors since 1991.....

....Those putting together the Iraqi WMD estimate never conceived of their task as one of making a case for intervention. Intelligence is policy neutral. We do not propose, we do not oppose any particular course of action.....

....Intelligence judgments about them will be just that – judgments, based on evidence that will rarely be conclusive or incontrovertible.
<font size=4>
Public Scrutiny: The Iraqi WMD Estimate
<font size=3>
That brings me to the Iraqi WMD estimate and the extraordinary public scrutiny it has engendered.....

....But let me offer a few additional points about that NIE, which has spawned a cottage industry of misinformation:

First, the judgments of that estimate were honestly arrived at. The estimate was published before I arrived, but I know the four National Intelligence Officers who put it together.....

....Three of them were appointed NIOs during the Clinton administration. The fourth goes back long before – all the way back to Carter, I believe. They are not “political,” and they are absolutely incorruptible. If anyone ever told them to alter their judgments for political reasons, their response would be to dig in their heels even harder.

Second, the debate a year ago was never about intelligence..... There was broad agreement, within governments and outside, about Iraq’s WMD programs – based on UNSCOM and UNMOVIC, foreign intelligence, and US Government assessments made over three administrations.

I was just in Europe a few weeks ago and reconfirmed that the British, French, and Germans all held the same basic judgments that we did.

Third, there was a powerful body of evidence on programs and a compelling basis for judging that they had weapons. The fixation is now on the weapons, but the programs – the capacity of a regime that had actually used CW on ten separate occasions to weaponize large quantities on short notice – were arguably just as worrying.

Fourth, as to the weapons themselves, the amounts of CW we estimated Iraq to have had would fit in a backyard swimming pool or, at the upper limit of our estimate, in a small warehouse. A tremendously lethal arsenal of BW could of course be much smaller. And this in a country the size of California.

Fifth, as David Kay, head of the Iraqi Survey Group, has pointed out, there were ample opportunities before, during and after the war to hide or destroy evidence as well as weapons. We may never know definitively what Iraq had at the time the war began.
.......................

odci.gov

STATEMENT BY DAVID KAY ON THE INTERIM PROGRESS REPORT ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE IRAQ SURVEY GROUP
fas.org

Iraqi Mobile Biological Warfare Agent Production Plants
odci.gov

CIA Statement on Recently Acquired Iraqi Centrifuge Equipment
fas.org

Arms transfers to Iraq, 1973-2002
projects.sipri.se