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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (521967)	1/10/2004 7:28:25 AM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 769670

They were never separate funds. That allowed the IOU BS system to be raped by the various legislatures and administrations. Social Security is a Ponzi Scam. The real reason for allowing immigration at startling rates is to form another base at the bottom of the pyramid .

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (521967)	1/10/2004 8:26:26 AM
From: tonto	Respond to of 769670

Right, the article states that both the democrats and the republicans are responsible... Back in 1983, as part of a deal to save Social Security from impending demographic doom, Congress enacted legislation to essentially increase payroll taxes and reduce benefits. As a result, the government began to collect more Social Security payroll taxes than it paid out to beneficiaries each year. The theory was that the government would use these surpluses to pay down the national debt. That way, when baby boomers retire—and comparatively more people are collecting benefits while comparatively fewer people are working—the government would be in a better position to borrow the necessary funds to provide the promised benefits. So much for theory. The reality? For the first 15 years, every penny of the surplus was spent, first by Republican presidents and then by a Democratic president. According to figures provided by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, the surpluses were relatively insignificant for much of this period. Between 1983 and 2001 a total of $667 billion in excess Social Security payroll taxes was spent—about $35 billion per year. It was only in fiscal 1999 and 2000, when the government ran so-called on-budget surpluses, that excess Social Security funds were actually used to retire debt.