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To: Jamey who wrote (36360)	1/12/2004 1:09:06 AM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

You think he bypassed confusion and went straight to mindless, useless, hideous torture. alan w

To: Jamey who wrote (36360)	1/12/2004 1:26:26 AM
From: Berry Picker	Respond to of 39621

James - you am I agree that those prophecies were "at hand" and that the message was sent to the very real seven churches of that time - about 62 AD telling them to "hold fast" that Jesus would return to avenge them soon. I also think that we agree on their being but two earthly "aions" ages. Although we could divide up what happened before Christ into different ministrations it was still the same changing priesthood - precursor - shadows and types that came before the "Gospel Aion" that age that ended all other ages. Allan is still looking for an age to end ages. He does not realize it is here because he looks for an abolishment of physical death and sin - paradise restored on earth. I do not expect any such earthly age. I am however alarmed at how many preterist actually deny eternal punishment and predestination - it amazes me that men can see some things so plainly and yet be utterly blind to others as I am sure Alan thinks of me concerning his concept of "salvation for all" I, as a man, think that it would be great if God did in fact in the end save all men and even satan and the fallen angels but scripture does not present that as the GOAL of what God did. It is plain that Jesus did not lay down his life for all men else why would he have said that he "laid down his life for the sheep" why would he not have said "I lay down my life for mankind" Anyway - I do enjoy Alan as he does dig deep and study scripture I do however think he is blinded to some very basic things. Brian

To: Jamey who wrote (36360)	1/12/2004 1:59:40 AM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

James I do not think that one can use an argument such as this one; "Alan is preaching a confusing doctrine. I don't believe that God is an author of confusion. " We both know that God is not the author of confusion but simply because we confuse someone it does not mean we are not of God. Preterism confuses most people - they hold to so much man made doctrine that it takes time to chip away at all that nonsense. In the mean time they become confused - that does not prove that what we are teaching is not of God. I do not think what Alan is saying is what the bible teaches otherwise I would join him but it can not be dispelled simply because it is confusing. Although I would agree Alan is very confused :-) Brian