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To: Little Joe who wrote (23957)	1/12/2004 5:42:14 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793622

but any more ridiculous than most the crap that comes out of candidate's mouths. I don't think so Clark is saying, "if I am Prez, no terrorist will attack us." That is insane. I wonder about his mental condition.

To: Little Joe who wrote (23957)	1/12/2004 6:08:54 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793622

NO DEBATING IT: HOWARD BLEW IT BIG TIME By DEBORAH ORIN and VINCENT MORRIS NY Post January 12, 2004 -- ANALYSIS DES MOINES, Iowa - Howard Dean's worst debate performance came at the worst possible time: just as Iowans are getting ready to vote. He was stuck on the defensive almost all night, and got the worst of it from Al Sharpton as Dean tried to defend his failure to hire minority Cabinet members and stumbled over citizenship for immigrants serving in the Army. Even a preplanned stunt blew up in Dean's face - invited to ask a question of a rival, he tried to toss it to a supporter in the audience, but the moderator wouldn't let him. Flummoxed, Dean was unable to come up with an impromptu query. It was a performance that could only fuel jitters among Democrats; if he isn't ready to debate Al Sharpton, how can he out debate George Bush? Dean's troubles allowed his chief rival in Iowa, Rep. Dick Gephardt (Mo.), to float above the fray and stress his own message of protecting U.S. jobs. In effect, Sharpton boosted Gephardt's chances by taking on Dean since often in debates, both candidates who get tangled in nasty back-and-forths hurt each other. Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) got in a few good jabs at Dean, while Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) mostly stayed above the fray, stressed a positive message, and escaped attacks from rivals, despite his rise in the polls. NEW YORK POST

To: Little Joe who wrote (23957)	1/12/2004 8:18:44 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793622

Over the top language. But I think the events described are happening. Washington Prowler Comrade Dean and the Workers By The Prowler American Spectator UNION CRACKDOWN First former Vermont Gov. Howie Dean didn't like that other Democratic presidential hopefuls were attacking him, and called on Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe to get them off his back. Now Dean is calling on the AFL-CIO to get organized labor groups that have endorsed other candidates and are working for them -- especially Rep. Dick Gephardt -- in Iowa and New Hampshire out of the races. "It isn't good enough that Dean has AFSCME and SEIU working for him, now he wants all the other unions to stop working for their candidates," says an AFL-CIO Washington lobbyist, who notes Dean has called AFL-CIO President John Sweeney to complain about union activities against him in Iowa. According to a Gephardt staffer on the ground in Des Moines, Dean is most piqued about union members who are organizing Iowa caucus voters for Gephardt and thus making life miserable for AFSCME and SEIU members doing similar work for Dean across the state. The tension between the two camps is heightened because while Dean has the big union backing, Gephardt has a larger percentage of AFL-CIO member unions in his camp, and the overall AFL-CIO endorsement will go to the candidate with the majority of member union support. "For all the talk of Dean in Iowa, Gephardt still can challenge him for the AFL-CIO endorsement, which would go a long way to helping him win the nomination," says the Gephardt staffer. "Dean's people can try to bully the unions, but we've had a much longer relationship with them, and they aren't just going to bend to Dean's demands that easily." Meanwhile, the Dean team celebrated the endorsement they received from Sen. Tom Harkin on Friday afternoon. "It ended a really lousy week on a good note," says a Dean staffer. The endorsement also came at the end of week that may see some changes to the Dean operations. Already, Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi is installing senior management in Vermont headquarters to better manage a growing campaign team, and take the pressure off staffers traveling with the candidate. Should Dean win Iowa and New Hampshire, expect additional changes and expansion of the campaign staff. spectator.org